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by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 6:47pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: I accept the criticism: Ross Lyon press conference
Replies: 8
Views: 297

Re: I accept the criticism: Ross Lyon press conference

Hillsong and Scientology followers have nothing on this bloke
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 6:39pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Cold Hard Facts
Replies: 58
Views: 1337

Re: Cold Hard Facts

Steele, Clark, Ross, and Jones Versus Bontempelli, Liberatore, Mcrae, and Dunkley We won a final against them. Remember that? Oh... sorry...I forgot. Ryder was the difference and our mids are all hopeless Jones, obviously has been tried this year and is now out of favour. I think Seb is also passed ...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 5:53pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Cold Hard Facts
Replies: 58
Views: 1337

Re: Cold Hard Facts

Petracca gets forward and kicks goals Steele? Don’t get me wrong, Steele is a very valuable footballer at St Kilda but given the position he plays he is compared to (list the elite mids) 2021 was 2021 but it is now 2024 I just do not rank Steele as competition leading - unlike Marshall, Sinclair, H...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 5:35pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Cold Hard Facts
Replies: 58
Views: 1337

Re: Cold Hard Facts

Why is the last quarter or the last 15 mins any less important than any other stage of a match? They call them 'junk time' goals for a reason. It's usually because the other team has all but sown up the victory. Our opposition in both the Port match (Powell-Pepper, Rozee and Aliir) and GWS match (T...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 5:08pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: King ...out of form or
Replies: 152
Views: 4656

Re: King ...out of form or

Nick Riewoldt has come out and said Max doesn't work hard enough. Plus...he lacks forward craft. Well done to the bozo amateurs Lethlean and Co. for releasing Josh Bruce at the end of 2019. Who the bloody hell was Max supposed to learn from when all of a sudden in his first year in footy, he's being...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 3:55pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Injury Update
Replies: 31
Views: 3420

Re: Injury Update

AFL report out 25 minutes ago regarding Ross Lyon responding to criticism...at the end of the story was this paragraph:

Midfielder Brad Crouch has recovered from a knee injury, but will return via the VFL.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1130829
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 3:47pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: I accept the criticism: Ross Lyon press conference
Replies: 8
Views: 297

I accept the criticism: Ross Lyon press conference

"I accept the criticism because it's valid. I've said there was a sameness (about us)." "We were really disappointed with our offence." "There were a lot of opportunities left on the table that we were really disappointed with." "Ideally we'd have another one or tw...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 2:42pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Replies: 10
Views: 368

Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...

Vortex wrote: Thu 16 May 2024 9:47am A horribly miserable cold wet winter awaits that big bunch of Collingwood players who are well into their 30s,

They are about to fall off a cliff.
Why don't you double down on that bet you took for them not to make the top 8.

The odds will be nice and juicy for you
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 2:46am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Replies: 10
Views: 368

Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...

My Mrs is a Collingwood supporter. Her sisters are Collingwood supporters too. Took after their mum who was a passionate footy fan ... Anyhow... I'm in a difficult situation where I have to watch some of the Collingwood press conferences because I also subject her to some of the Saints ones. I usual...
by Scollop
Thu 16 May 2024 2:46am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Replies: 10
Views: 368

Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...

I don't think it's simply about players. Last year was a bit of a honeymoon period for Ross Lyon. The new 'game plan' for players and the new messaging from the new coach was important, but so too was the need to impress and preserve your footy career. It doesn't take much for players to lose faith ...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 11:18pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Cold Hard Facts
Replies: 58
Views: 1337

Re: Cold Hard Facts

The cold hard facts are that we have a core of players at the level So Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair and Hill We have a bunch of kids we have hopes for, starting with King, Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Phillipou and now Wilson So that is 10 players we hope will influence the results of games wi...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 11:07pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

Sorry. That conversation has been done to death. I’m sick of talking about him too.

I think whatshisname gets a laugh out of baiting people
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 11:00pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

B.M wrote: Wed 15 May 2024 10:54pm Do you think Billings is NO good?
His 2019 year was his best and I’d rate him in the top 100 players in the AFL for that year alone

His first 2 years… he was ok

His next 2 years were bog average

…and I think that in his last 3 years he was NO good for the St Kilda team
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 10:52pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

Vortex wrote: Wed 15 May 2024 10:47pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 15 May 2024 2:31pm
sks023 wrote: Wed 15 May 2024 1:58pm Ten fn years ago
Max King who is still relatively inexperienced
I'm starting to worry Max is our next Billings.
Only way that’ll happen is if Lyon is our next Richo

i.e. next to zero chance
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 6:32pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Chasing Weitering
Replies: 61
Views: 1630

Re: Chasing Weitering

Scallop With their injury list, who constituted the Hawthorn attack? Noting Hawthorn won the game by only 5 points So that is one game against a lower ranking Club And what happened when we played the Western Bulldogs, a team with variable form The challenging sides do not rely on one KPP sized pla...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 2:54pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Should they come back through the VFL
Replies: 6
Views: 293

Re: Should they come back through the VFL

That suspension to King messed with continuity ...and then the knee injury perhaps messed with his fitness Max definitely needs to work harder and his attack on the ball needs work. He kicked a goal in the last quarter from an easy chest mark (nice pass from Garcia) Our 2 goals in the last quarter w...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 2:31pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

Ten fn years ago Ahhhhh...hello I wasn't talking about recruitment decisions I was talking about the 'development' of young players right NOW Don't continue playing young guys if they're making the same errors in games or showing bad habits. That includes Wilson, Pou and even Max King who is still ...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 1:08pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

Going to stop reading this s*** You guys are ......... The supporter's are what's wrong with this club Ok. Sorry If we stop the criticism of King he will turn into a combination of Nick and Jack Riewoldt If we stop the criticism of Pou he'll turn into James Hird and the Bont combined... And if we s...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 1:01pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Should they come back through the VFL
Replies: 6
Views: 293

Re: Should they come back through the VFL

If the op is implying that Max King may have needed to gain his confidence at VFL level...well... I'm not sure There's a few things to consider. One is the condition of the ground where VFL matches are played. Some are too risky to be trialling your number 1 key Forward. We've invested too much in h...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:52pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Should they come back through the VFL
Replies: 6
Views: 293

Re: Should they come back through the VFL

There's a difference between a young bloke and a seasoned campaigner.

Young blokes need a game or 2 in the VFL imo

Take Mason Wood and Liam Henry for example. Both injured in round 2.

One is an experienced senior player who came straight in and performed. The young guy had a stinker
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:48pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Changes for Freo
Replies: 55
Views: 2021

Re: Changes for Freo

Just checked the stats. Sinclair attended 13 centre bounces. That's good imo. He needs to be part of the midfield and the more time he spends in the middle, the better the group getting used to having him there. Owens attended only 3 ctr bounces for the entire match. That's crap! Just start him at c...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:35pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Chicken or the Egg
Replies: 21
Views: 655

Re: Chicken or the Egg

Will Owens be the next to be scapegoated for our failure to step up and win games we should win? You mentioned another couple of youngsters (our 18 yr olds) but let's just focus on Michito Owens is thrown around everywhere and wasted, instead of just playing as a pure mid. Let him settle in a posit...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:20pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Changes for Freo
Replies: 55
Views: 2021

Re: Changes for Freo

We started the 3rd quarter with Paton replacing Hayes. The commentators said that was a good attacking mindset from coach. Where's the attacking mindset from the opening bounce? Been banging on about this for weeks....Would love to see Windy and Owens start in the middle alongside Steele. Hopefully...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:40am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are we going full tilt in 2024????
Replies: 37
Views: 995

Re: Are we going full tilt in 2024????

Saints need to learn how to develop young players. Young players need both time and space to develop. The best develop through both VFL and AFL exposure. Learn, fail, learn adapt and learn again. Players need to make mistakes and have room to fail and learn. Gifting 30+ games in a row and going bac...
by Scollop
Wed 15 May 2024 12:17am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Do you enjoy supporting the Saints?
Replies: 98
Views: 10357

Re: Do you enjoy supporting the Saints?

It’s character building