It is never a level playing field against the filth, all teams get shafted by the umps. The reason is the crowd factor and the AFL's desire to have the pies in finals

Armo cooked and Mav not AFL standard, not much to like at Sandy but White and Paton could add some speed.
Lonie looked better than both of them so that is a real indictment on their form

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Yes

Yes

Zebs kicking skills very similar to the saints, has Ben Dixon been there also

If Richo does go can't see many wanting to take on coaching this rabble

Let's be honest if you are an A grader would you come to StKilda. Anymore performances like last Friday will more likely see an exodus of the few decent players we have.

Coach maybe very ordinary but you can't make a silk purse out of pig s***.

Three absolute shockers today
Norths kicking for goal
Saints field kicking
Channels sevens camera work
All the fault of the coach and the umpires of course. Telecast probably easiest to fix by hiring some of nines cameramen who were far superior.

He must have really starred in the first 10 minutes of the third quarter that I missed because I thought he was very ordinary.

Posters continue to blame the coaching Richo may not be the messiah but I am sure he doesn't instruct them to handball to a player in a worse position or kick the ball out on the full. Let's be honest we have more stinkers than thinkers out there. We were lucky to have played the Lions as after watc...

The umpiring hasn't helped but if you are second to the ball or like a startled rabbit in the headlights if you actually get hold of it you will concede a lot of frees. Let's hope Steven, Billings and Acres can get us home as there is not much else out there.

Our lack of pace and poor decision making could see us lose this one. When we actually played football rather than handball late in the first quarter we looked but they seem to have forgotten that.

Would not worry about the apparent lack of a whipping boy, surely Ben & Koby will fill that role they haven't got much else to offer. Reflection on the ability of our selectors when any one of the emergency's would be a better bet than either of these two.

Can't kick, can't run, can't stick a tackle, can't hold are mark and everybody is blaming the bad performance on the lack of a game plan. Let's face it most of our players are not capable of following a game plan and very few have the skills to be playing at this level. So all you posters that are d...

After Carlton JLT we are crying out for a Tall, Mobile,Marking defender. Clavarino seems to have vanished, we need to put time into him as he could eventually fit the bill. Hopefully another Lever of the future

Although I believe we will get a glimpse of our future I think finals are probably two years away. A lot of teams are further down the track than us so will not be surprised if we drop a position or two on the ladder before beginning a rise. How far we go will be helped by some inspired recruiting w...

I predict you will get done for substance abuse

Will probably develop into a poor man's Lonie, another case of inept recruiting

Impossible to guess what our recruiters will do. Only sure thing is they will be of good character and from a good family.
Won't matter if they are ordinary players with chronic fatigue or some other medical condition.
Hope I am wrong but our track record at the draft isn't great.

Good VFL side but prefer Port Melbourne