If both teams are having a dip, Carlton should beat our current team. But bear in mind they have made tanking an art form so the depleted Saints for me.

I have no doubt that Carlton will be tanking by than and as we know they have made an art form of that so the result will not give a true indication of the relative strength of our lists.

I can't see any top line FA players falling over each other to come to the saints for a few years yet. It pains me to say it but Caltons list is far superior to ours and they are more likely to get the big name recruits than us. That said the clubs in the premiership window seem to be landing all th...

Playing for one of the AFL's expansion clubs will result in a lighter suspension than is appropriate

Saintbob has almost got it but I would also drop Savage and Brown at miss bring in Joyce and Conellan at least we will have someone who can run out of sight on a dark night. The Irishmen would enjoy the sunshine if nothing else.

Joyce for Jake and bring Coffield back, if more needed Paton should be next

Must take it to the tribunal using the Fyfe incident as a precedent. Bet the reason that it really matters who you are and who you play for is the main factor in determining the penalty will never be admitted.
If as I suspect the penalty will stand we have a chance to look at Joyce or Goddard

More likely to trade it for three picks much later in the draft and trout will pass on all of them.

Every chance we will end up with the first pick. Unlikely to beat the Lions at the Gabba or be able to counter the Blues tall forwards. Must move trout and his band of incompiments on now or could end up with another Paddy.

It is never a level playing field against the filth, all teams get shafted by the umps. The reason is the crowd factor and the AFL's desire to have the pies in finals

Armo cooked and Mav not AFL standard, not much to like at Sandy but White and Paton could add some speed.
Lonie looked better than both of them so that is a real indictment on their form

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Lonie will have to lift his game to get as many as six touch's

Yes

Yes

Zebs kicking skills very similar to the saints, has Ben Dixon been there also

If Richo does go can't see many wanting to take on coaching this rabble

Let's be honest if you are an A grader would you come to StKilda. Anymore performances like last Friday will more likely see an exodus of the few decent players we have.

Coach maybe very ordinary but you can't make a silk purse out of pig s***.

Three absolute shockers today
Norths kicking for goal
Saints field kicking
Channels sevens camera work
All the fault of the coach and the umpires of course. Telecast probably easiest to fix by hiring some of nines cameramen who were far superior.

He must have really starred in the first 10 minutes of the third quarter that I missed because I thought he was very ordinary.

Posters continue to blame the coaching Richo may not be the messiah but I am sure he doesn't instruct them to handball to a player in a worse position or kick the ball out on the full. Let's be honest we have more stinkers than thinkers out there. We were lucky to have played the Lions as after watc...

The umpiring hasn't helped but if you are second to the ball or like a startled rabbit in the headlights if you actually get hold of it you will concede a lot of frees. Let's hope Steven, Billings and Acres can get us home as there is not much else out there.