Won't comment on whether Kirkwood's prior access to testimonies will be one of the grounds, but thought likely But that's a purely technical point, isn't it, given that Kirkwood's evidence was rejected by the Tribunal. Surely more to the point is the fact that Kirkwood's evidence was the main groun...

Can we still name Baker in the team pending the result of the appeal? If not, then he would presumably be forced to miss the game against the Eagles regardless of the outcome of the appeal.

You're wrong Dan, I believe the sentence has now been commuted to transportation for the term of his natural life to play for the Dockers.

The Club has appealed on several grounds, including the ground that, having accepted Steven Baker's account of the incident, which was supported by other witnesses, the Tribunal should not have found Baker guilty or suspended him. Good stuff: this was always the part of the process that worried me ...

If CJ gets a spot this week, I hope it turns out to be chickenpox so that he is not available for Friday's game through illness.

Like you, Yipper, I have had had a lot to do with all sorts of tribunals, and I follow your reasoning if - as is typically the case - tribunals are not empowered to dismiss all charges put to them and then invent their own and charge and convict a party of that charge. The AFL Tribunal acted as if t...

It's good for us in the short term, but the champagne corks will really be popping down Geelong way. All Geelong needs now is for the Swans to miss out on the 8 (very achievable) and they are going to be so hot for the flag they will be on fire. Oddly enough, our chances of meeting the Cats in the G...

The point about him not having the opportunity to lodge a plea was a good one. There must be a number of other questions about the process: how he was originally referred to the Tribunal, what the charge was, how the Tribunal used the evidence (eg, was Baker warned that, if he admitted to having ini...

I assume that "rough conduct" is a bit of a grab-bag of a charge that would be difficult to disprove (eg, the constant bumping and buffeting that goes on off the ball in every game could all be construed as "rough conduct"). I guess the best argument is that the 3 weeks penalty i...

I think the problem we will face about going to court is similar to the one that we faced with the Sirengate affair. The AFL administration is a total mess ATM and natural justice gets denied to clubs (and not just us) on a daily basis. Any club that decided to take the AFL to court on one of these ...

(And I don't mean the oddball and infrequent poster who uses that name!!) It was hard to believe that the AFL could ever have come up with a worse tribunal system than the old one. But, since at least the Barry Hall decision in 2005, we've all known that they did. They just keep rewriting the rule b...

Krikkett wrote:Who has said that there isn't video?


The AFL has stationary camera's with a wide view for umpire training...I'd suggest they picked up the incident.

If there was video, then why the farce with M Voss, R Nixon and the Freo trainer?

oh god we all know baker hit him in the face he deserves to be punished get over it lets be honest here baker isnt the stopper he once was he is easily replaced I understand that people are upset, but this poster probably has a point that - on this season's form - Bakes isn't going to be quite the ...

Surely this is a joke thread. Out of Freo and St.Kilda, I know who would have their licience revoked if it came to a choice. 9 Vic Clubs 2 Perth Clubs You work it out :roll: I assume that you have unilaterally expelled Geelong from Victoria, JB. Some would say that was a fair thing to do. :wink:

At least this thread isn't full of endless abuse of Demetriou, Anderson, Fremantle club, Jeff Farmer, etc, etc.

So thanks for starting it SENSaintsational.

Why don't we use B4E as the defence counsel. Second thoughts.... no. He'd front up on the right day..... but the wrong tribunal room. And I don't think "hits to advantage" stats would go down too well. :wink: Nor would his defence that Bakes was only tagging Farmer in the first place beca...

SENSaintsational, I normally like your stuff, but this argument is a load of garbage. As for your comments about Ackland and McGough: are you just stirring or do you really believe that, if we had passed them up and recruited draftees with picks 33 and 49 at the end of 2004, we'd have had a premier...

The have the most selfish front running players in the league in Farmer, Pavlich, and Headland whoa re all feited as "champions" by the insecure, insular, isolated purple wearing morons who are Freo supporters. JB, I agree with almost all of your rant, but you are being a bit unfair to Pa...

SENSaintsational, I normally like your stuff, but this argument is a load of garbage. If the Ted Richards example isn't enough to undermine your point, what about Brent Guerra playing for Hawthorn or Brad Ottens playing for Geelong? All clubs pick up recycled players from time to time: look at how w...

We have a rather naive and inflexible coach, a difficult and in many ways unsuitable game plan, we have a few injury problems (but probably no worse than any of the other finals contenders, perhaps bar the Swans: although Kenneally and Hall don't seem anywhere near right to me). Nonetheless, I recko...

did anyone read the dockerland thread the peanut posted in the op? what a bunch of knowledge-less tools Did you mean the people on dockerland (including the one who defended Baker)? Did you mean the "anyone" to whom you addressed this post? Did you mean peanut? (and them's fighting words ...

Awsome find SaintBrat!!!!! Made me have a look myself.......and found the below..... Most users ever online was 244 on Tue 12 Sep 2006 4:47pm What happened that doy for so many to be on this site???? :roll: :roll: :roll: Second-most ever online would have been during Sirengate week Third-most would...

Plugger66 I don't have anywhere as much faith as you in the MRP-Tribunal system: I just can't get over the decisions that allowed Barry Hall to get off in 2005 and Daniel Kerr in 2006. Nonetheless, I agree with your general point: the AFL is not biased in handlling these sorts of cases, it's just in...

Obviously CJ is more popular than I had thought. But posters should not delude themselves with the idea that we should be excited about him because of his "potential": he's actually older than Mark McGough FFS!! I think everyone (including the selectors and Ross Lyon) should be careful whe...

It's depressing, but only to be expected, that CJ and Attard are being considered to replace any of Harvey, Ball and Baker who aren't available for the Eagles match. I guess Attard has the strongest case, having been selected for 19/20 matches so far. But I can't see how he could possibly be conside...