Has anyone noticed, the more we don't play, the more confident people get about our ability and potential? It always reaches a climax at about January when nobody has seen us play for months and start pinning us in for flag favourites? We haven't played for a week and now we're fit to burst!! Just ...

amazing what one game at scorps does... Ferg good game everyone wants him in despite being average for most of the year. Allen not a great game no one wants him despite playing good all year. was told that allen played well. up at chf, I wanted to squeeze him in but I think the G will get another w...

fair summary. Hopefully the boy's agree

OUT: Riewoldt, Maguire, X.Clarke
IN: King, Ferg and fisher

we won. people seem to forget that.

was tempted to bring in Allen and geary though...

decided that ross would keep the faith with G and geary perhaps a bit too slight for the pies

One thing is certain Lyon and co are not the GT, TD,Bundy and Burkey of 2004 IIRC, Neither TD or Burkie were there in 2005 and certainly not in 2006, so your comparison of the comparitive coaching panes is flawed. But then that is probably only a furphy anyway? Why not say it as you really mean it?...

how does allen go in defense? for the mosters bring in rix kosi can always go back if that doesn't work fisher bj blake raph gwilt can all take certain match ups and what about gram he has played on the tall forward before.... and should allow him some latitude from his opponent... because atm the s...

I'm happy with the situation, and see it as a platform

I never bet on saints games.

good to see you can call a season 1/3 of the way through...

tell me the grand final teams oh great one so I can go to the TAB

good to see you have learned the party line from the Carlton supporters fireman. we should all aspire to be more like you! I don't think of last nights performance as mediocre, Richmond took some massive risks with there movement of the ball, it paid off... but we hurt them when they made mistakes, ...

I watched the game. I was at the game. As I am every week in Melbourne. I thought our tackling was good. I thought the result was good. I acknowledge there are improvements required. I am a happy person. You mustn't be. Maybe if you sort that out. You'll stop being so damn negative! but anyway on ta...

I didn't look to the age for my opinion... I already had mine then looked up the numbers to support my opinion.

ineffective tackles don't get recorded

57 tackles - 42

doesn't look too bad to me

1 % 52-32

defiantly not poor

both stats stkilda won

I don't know what the exact definition of contested possession is but I do know its not the only measure of hardness

It think we are going okay.. never said everything is fantastic!

but people are acting like we are no hope.. ridiculous

If we had of kicked straight against geelong in the first quarter everyone would still be ranting about how good we are!

why? *there is no logic to dropping him.. So if Max is fit for the Pies game...Max stay out? I thought selection was playing your best 22? if you define best 22 by the players performance alone then gram is out if you define it by positional form goose is out or he could just replace one of the for...

most exciting game I have seen in two years was awesome

injuries are a big deal these days... I think someone said for every player who goes down in a game your chance of winning drops 17%???

last night is something you should be holding onto if that's how you feel!

We had Milne who kicked 7 goals- fair swagger there he was even trying to get the crowd fired up after his last!

and

Every other player threw themselves into contests like they haven't in a long while!

why?
* He is being serviceable as the stats show
* He was no where near our worst in the team... (see Gram)
* we have forced changes due to injury/suspensions

there is no logic to dropping him.. he is delivering acceptable games AND has potential to be a very good player!

saints d Sydney saints d Carlton saints d by western bulldogs saints d by Geelong saints d Essendon saints d by port saints d Richmond all that matters is results... they are pretty reasonable results. don't go into each match and how we played.. no one will next year. and if you do there are just a...

I don't think raph is in a slump.. I think he is still developing at this level.. how many games has he played? some players take a long time to hit there straps at afl level.. he looked more composed last night.

jason gram 11 touches 3 contested 54% efficiency 1 rebound 50 7 1%'s just thought it was of interest Good point, would have started a Gram thread but at least Gram has a decent history, we know Gram has the potential, Raph has none. disagree.. I think gram has hit the best form he will ever show......

A lot of you have been spoiled! I came on here expecting to read about our win, the character shown, how good Richmond are, the wonders of milne and maybe some constructive points. instead I read about how raphs no good, changed need to be made, how we were lucky and generally just an array of bs so...

jason gram

11 touches 3 contested 54% efficiency

1 rebound 50
7 1%'s

just thought it was of interest

19 touches 5 contested 73% effective

5 rebound 50's

not a bad game from a late inclusion!

and watching at the game after the first quarter i thought he was nearly in our best

be very interesting to see how he goes... should kick at least 5 goals unless severely triple teamed.. in which case look out for allen at that level