Im going positive on this. We dont know where Paddys at. Maybe a new club with good preseason and who knows, he may surprise. its not like we had a plethora of ruck options so at least he's an upgrade on what little we had. Hopefully RoMa continues his upward trajectory and Ryder plays a bit part a...

It s not hysteria, it is the strong suspicion that come Round 1 Bruce will be at the Dogs and Ryder will be filling in a as key forward, OR that we will play top heavy with one less mid. What I like least about it is that we're basically doing the same thing that didn't work at Port this year. They...

DJ Higgins wrote: ↑Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:40am Pies are cutting him for a reason we don't know. Let's not do another Freeman please

What if someone had a quick chat to say, Banger, at a recent event??? Dunno myself, but could be

I don't expect him at the club though

Six Saints to look out for in 2020 http://m.saints.com.au/news/2019-09-17/six-saints-to-look-out-for-in-2020.mobileapp Really exciting to see these guys in 2020. Bytel and King Kong...bookmark them now. Mayo looks a player too. Wonder what he puts on his toast. King is a beast, I'm just wondering h...

Six Saints to look out for in 2020 http://m.saints.com.au/news/2019-09-17/six-saints-to-look-out-for-in-2020.mobileapp Really exciting to see these guys in 2020. Bytel and King Kong...bookmark them now. Mayo looks a player too. Wonder what he puts on his toast. King is a beast, I'm just wondering h...

moreso than swapping him for Bruce. to be clear I am not saying that they are swapping him for Bruce. They are not. Bruce it seems is being swapped to gain pick 12. What pick 12 is then use on one can only guess. Hill (ie keeps 5 in play)? Another player? Hope they are far smarter than they seem th...

Kick-it-lace-out wrote: ↑Fri 13 Sep 2019 1:50pm Cannot understand why we would be considering trading out 27 y.o Josh Bruce (197 cm) for 31 y.o Patrick Ryder (197 cm)? I wouldn't consider it an upgrade.

Surely they would only bring Ryder as a backup ruck? not a swap for Bruce? That would be silly

Lots of 'glass half empty' people about. What if it works? and he comes for not much? No my PINT glass of full strength brew is a full one. Bruce at CHF and Marshall at No1 Ruck rather than the half full 7oz of mid strength that Ryder offers. ;) I think Bruce may be a done deal though. Hopefully my...

desertsaint wrote: ↑Thu 12 Sep 2019 1:45pm faark!
why not use it as a punishment game for the very worst team in victoria. should be melbourne this year. why the heck would any chinese want to go watch the shitty team that got smashed there last season?

It year of Rat. China ruv Ratts. We have Ratts. Ratts win in China 2020

Other's will disagree and will see him as: 1/ Playing as a key forward with Bruce traded 2/ Playing No 1 Ruck and Marshall as a forward/ruck or 3/Reliving Marshall in the ruck with low TOG and a lot of pine time (ie we play one midfielder less. 4/ Rotating between forward, ruck and bench. Whilst fo...

magnifisaint wrote: ↑Fri 13 Sep 2019 1:14pm Probably means that the Saints lose Bruce to the Dogs although they need to cough up.

Bruce automatically gets 30% better delivery next year, no matter what he does! win win for him

Robert Harvey is an absolute legend of our club. I admired and respected him as a player. I admire and respect him as a fine assistant coach, and as a quality person. I could repeat those previous words about Brett Ratten. A fine player. A one-club man. A quality person and fine assistant coach. I'...

Silly thread. It's a combination of both. Look at Brisbane this year. Great drafting in previous years and awesome traded players If your definition of awesome trades is to trade in top end talent, the club has tried and largely been unsuccessful in attracting that kind of talent, no matter how big...

I feel for Seb. He has done nothing wrong and still gets grief. He isn't a star in my eyes but he is onsistent week in and week out and plays his role. Absolutely right. I have been critical of Seb Ross, however I also congratulate him now on winning his second award. I congratulate all of those pl...

I agree SS. We need to offer overs to get anyone valuable to come. There's only so many times we can do that until team salaries become unbalanced and or we hit our cap without the complete team. We need to keep unearthing gold like Marshall,Wilkie,Parker,Gresh etc that don't cost the farm. To do t...

I think trading Bruce would be a big mistake. He's a heart and soul player and an important part of our forward line. Max King might be a star but he might also take years to get there and injury is always a risk. This has echoes of the Rhys Stanley trade. My personal view is that Rhys Stanley is a...

mbogo wrote: ↑Tue 10 Sep 2019 5:36pm So why are there no discussion points about Bruce in this thread, just a lot of arguing about other stuff? Bruce needs to stay, end of story!!

It's the YouTube principle. You start in one space and end-up somewhere completely different

Sorry Baz, you must be angry, you have messed it up :) I get what you mean though. Look, we've been on the wrong end of this since long before we got all the Sunday games, and long before you had to be a Cartel club to get Friday games. There's a little from all camps in this. We do really need to ...

St Kilda FC is and can be at any stage that they get their act together for long enough, one of those clubs. That's just complete nonsense. The reason big clubs are big, is because they generate huge numbers through the gate, and huge numbers watching on TV. As a result, they get the fixtures to ma...

The Cartel which dominates the AFL Board table act in the interests of their Clubs Hence the nonsense of Free Agency being to the benefit of Clubs lower down the Premiership ladder and to equalise the competition Simply the players go to the Cartel Clubs, those with the large memberships and who ex...

1/ Using the game as an example of one ruckman set-up vs a two ruck set up when BOTH teams actually each played TWO players who were capable in the ruck is a deeply flawed example: Grundy/Cox vs Lycett/Vardy 2/ If your point is that WCE 2 rucks were better than the Pies 2 rucks at stoppages then 57...

Jack Steven is more likely than not to go to Geelong, there is a real concern that if he stays at St Kilda he may well suffer further mental health issues and miss a lot of games, so it would be to their mutual benefits. It has been reported that Geelong could agree to release Charlie Constable as ...

fugazi wrote: ↑Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:01pm So keeping Jake and trading Bruce.
Exactly the wrong move. God we are a dumb footy club.

Things don't add up to me, although now would be a good time to not get attached to any player.

Stringer is lazy and he's a f***wit. How is that similar to Josh? The parallel may be directed at a perceived lazy and farkwitted Carlisle. If Josh is traded it will be because of his versatility and commitment and the need to trade to get quality kicks into the list. Yes, but the reason is because...

The Dogs have thrown everything at a forward/ruck before. I think you may mean the FF they threw everything at who was actually not that good as a FF, BUT who had one very good game as a ruck/forward in the most important game of the year? Lucky too as on that day the opposition ruck stocks were no...