Winmar7Fan wrote:Cousins all day long. Baker maybe a few years ago but my opinion for 6 months now is Baker and Maguire unfortunately are both finished.

Is this opinion actually based on anything?

homework wrote:Great read but Sam Fisher should be in the elite section as he is our club champion of 2008

Yeah, but he's not elite in the midfield. Good, but it's as a rebounding defender that he's top-line.

Elite : Hayes Dal Santo Ball Goddard Montagna Gram These six are very solid, with serious improvement still possible from both Goddard and Gram. Not to mention Joey had a poor year last year, and Bally would have much more impact if fit all year. If everything goes right, this group alone can carry...

homework wrote:Why isn't Gardy or Kingy outside of the list (Vetran) ?

not enough years for the saints. hayes and baker will be eligible next year, milne and blake the year after.

Max Hudghton , 32.5, 227 games, 191/93, veteran Steven King , 30.3, 215 games, 201/104 Michael Gardiner , 29.7, 138 games, 199/103 Lenny Hayes , 29.1, 192 games, 186/87 Stephen Milne , 29.0, 165 games, 178/82 Steven Baker , 28.8, 154 games, 181/85 Jason Blake , 28.0, 136 games, 191/88 Sam Fisher , ...

The first 2 rookie drafts attracted a lot of 'Not Utilised'. But the last 10 rookie drafts contained 602 options with 511 players selected. The most selected player remains "Not Utilised" 91 times in the 10 years. This is a stupid conclusion. Dude, if there'd been four passes across the e...

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bakersgirl wrote:bakes and lenny

Lenny and Bakes!

Used to be Dal, but he's fallen away.

That's a touch illogical.

Dal's fallen away? Bakes has barely played in 18 months!

Let's see some facts. GT was in charge for five off-seasons: 2001 : drafted Ball [2], Clarke X [5], Dal Santo [13], Maguire [23], Montagna [37], Houlihan [49] drafted rookies Dicketts, Schwarze B, Jones traded away Hall traded for Knobel, Black 2002 : drafted Goddard [1], Ferguson [22], Fisher L [46...

Also, clubs get an extra two rookie spots for the next two years as part of the concessions for gold coast starting up, so that means we had: 2008 - 6 spots: Attard - delisted Chivers - delisted Eddy - promoted McQualter Miles Van Rheenen - delisted Haretuku (scholarship) Assuming Max stays inside t...

no. he has been on the rookie list for two years. He can't be re rookied unfortunately i think he can, if he's redrafted in the rookie draft. it's just required that after two years on the rookie list a player is either delisted or promoted. he can be redrafted in the rookie draft if he's under 23 ...

St Fidelius wrote:Baker won the B &F not that long ago, I really don't see why you think that RL doesn't rate him...

Rossco didn't give him the best and fairest, so why should those two things be related at all?

These guys were in the team regularly and so are obviously safe: Hudghton, King, Hayes, Milne, Blake, Fisher S, Koschitzke, Riewoldt, Montagna, Dempster, Jones, Dal Santo, Gram, Schneider, Ball, Goddard, Gilbert These guys are young and haven't yet run out of chances: Allen, Armitage, Geary, McEvoy,...

pick 31 versus pick 48: 2007: Daniel Boyle vs Michael Shields 2006: Clayton Collard vs David Mackay 2005: Trent West vs Alan Obst 2004: Jarred Moore vs Nathan Ablett (fs) 2003: Josh Krueger vs Heath Shaw (fs) 2002: Joel Perry vs Greg Edgcumbe 2001: Joel Reynolds vs Simon Cox 2000: Blake Campbell vs ...

For mine X will get Steve Johnson, Mini one of the mids. perfer blake go to johnson...he doesnt have to do much to sj to put him off his game, continuously push/shove him an away we go i hope it's not x or blake. x should play midfield with instructions to go hard at the ball, get tackles and clear...

I dont think anyone would disagree with the notion that Johnson is a smarter footballer than Gilbert. However, I feel that if given a specific role he could do an important job for us. Gilbert's man tends to kick goals. Johnson can't kick early goals or he sparks the team and we lose. Don't put Gil...

It sounds pretty dangerous to have a group of this importance all aging at the same time. "List management", dontcha know. Aging at the same time is a negative way to look at it. The key to a premiership list is having a group that will peak at the same time, no? I haven't really got the ...

Not a big enough tackler or defensive-minded enough for our Ross. Also, he's a bad age - he sits square in the middle of our biggest group of players, those who'll be between 24 and 26 at the start of next year: Ferguson Maguire Ball Schneider Gram Dal Santo Jones Dempster Montagna Clarke, X Birss G...

Let's look at Sunday's likely line-up and their finals experience in depth. Nice post, Punter! Very few players in that list with good finals performances, then. S Fisher, once. Dal, in a couple. Gwilt once. Riewoldt consistently. Milne, not too bad. Schneider a couple. King not bad. Hayes definite...

After this September, we'll be up to at least another 44 games of finals experience. 42 with Harves retirement. Yep, take off 14 for Banger, 14 for Frase, possibly 10 for Max. Just shows how important it is to keep scraping into the eight, to keep a bit of finals experience about the place. Elimina...

Our team this week will probably be (Ball in for Dempster): (name, games, finals) Harvey (380, 14 ) - and a grand final Schneider (114, 12 ) - and a premiership Hudghton (224, 10 ) - and a grand final King (212, 10 ) - and a premiership Riewoldt (155, 6 ) Dal Santo (141, 6 ) Ball (122, 6 ) Gardiner,...

SrR, I'm afraid I don't share your views on the calibre of youth that we've seen this year. Rookies or not, they're pretty ordinary I think. One thing I will give them however, is that they have a dip. And that's as important as anything. if they were pretty ordinary. eddy, mcqualter would not get ...

Forward line, back line - meh. The game will be won in the midfield. (Maybe with help from numbers from other areas of the ground, mind you.) We know that Geelong have a huge number of possessions. Most of these are handballs - over the year they've had 5% more kicks than us, but 36% more handballs....

He's been one of the best backs in the competition for almost ten years, and showing no signs of flagging. Will leave a huge hole in our team if he goes - Gilbert's been showing signs, but there's still no-one to match Max's ability to do a job. And how's his closing speed? There's nothing better th...

With Dempster injured I think Attard is now safe. Kahn will probably get another year if he isn't taking up a spot someone else could fill (how many NSW players can you have?). With Dempster injured, won't we probably leave Attard on the rookie list and promote him to fill Dempster's long-term-inju...

Bring Fraser Gehrig in- tell him to hit Gary Ablett, Jimmy Bartel, Chapman, steve Johnson and scarlett they they're all concussed, he will get banned for life This brings memories..... This brings memories of Ablett senior in 1991 - the last time we played Geelong in a final. Down at Waverley, beau...