comparing those 5 is like trying to compare Judd, Scarlett, Cox, Brown and G Ablett

they all play different positions and different roles in their teams

he is a potential super-star, but isn't there yet

too inconsistant, too up himself, too lazy

i would take Brown, Pavlich or Riewoldt over him any day

the kangaroos must be the worst top 4 side i can remember

Geelong couldn't get any luckier

um, if ur comparing Franklin's kick too riewoldts against the dogs than u TRULY know nothing about football.... and to those saying kicking 7 in a final makes u a superstar, a certain J Farmer kicked 8 in a final a couple of years ago, anyone willing to stand up and say hes a super star? didn't thi...

Buddy's test will come next year, 15 other clubs will study his year, look for weaknesses and give him a little more respect. If he is just as dominant as this year, then hats off he has arrived. Roo has been doing it for four years now, part of being a superstar or champion is longevity. Buddy has...

um, if ur comparing Franklin's kick too riewoldts against the dogs than u TRULY know nothing about football.... and to those saying kicking 7 in a final makes u a superstar, a certain J Farmer kicked 8 in a final a couple of years ago, anyone willing to stand up and say hes a super star? didn't thin...

bigcarl wrote:the fact that he has kicked seven in his first final says to me that he's already a superstar.

not even 21 yet ... scary. the fact that he's kicked them in a final and when it counts says a lot

so does that make the Adelaide bloke who kicked a bag against us in the 97 GF a superstar?

no

what, chad cornes went near an opponent?!?!

well thats a first....

where was this collingwood last week???

...rolled them over and had our way with them

where the hell was this collingwood last week!

Sydney are playing terrible, the worst game i've seen them play in years

collingwood are getting an absolute ride from the umpires at the moment

its ridiculous

11 games for 8 goals playing as forward doesn't add up to 2 goals a game dud. well he wasn't played as a forward for 11 games, was he the games i remember him playing forward he kicked 3, 3 and 1 give him DECENT game time, play him in the forward line for an extended number of weeks, not just 1 or ...

Brett Voss would contribute as much as Petiffer given the opportunity I hate to say it but Voss' form dropped last year dropped more this year, hate to think what he would be like next year. Pettifer over voss at this stage in their careers every day of the week. how many goals did Petiffer kick th...

Brett Voss would contribute as much as Petiffer given the opportunity

saintgus wrote:The_Dud...wat are you on...he is a genuine superstar

if hes a genuine superstar, than Jonathon Brown must be the greatest player of all time

once he becomes more consistent, as he sometimes goes missing, and puts in some better second and third efforts, he will be a star

but he hasn't reached that level yet

oh, and he also must be one of the biggest divers in the game, his two in 30 seconds today were pathetic

is good, but when the ball hits the ground he is flat out hopeless

ausfatcat wrote:the all australian team.



probably if pushed the saints might offer there first rnd pick for that team.

throw in Barry Brooks and i reckon we'd have a deal

I loved Frase and will miss him greatly, but hopefully our forwardline becomes a bit more flexible in his absence. again, how will less options give us more flexibility...? :roll: Because the instinct of every St Kilda midfielder was to find Gehrig when they had the ball ... they were trained to do...

Oh When the Saints wrote:I loved Frase and will miss him greatly, but hopefully our forwardline becomes a bit more flexible in his absence.

again, how will less options give us more flexibility...?

The_dud... Just as the best kick from outside 60 doesn't make the best FF, neither does the best kick at goal. Does it take into account the pressure he is under while taking shots at goal too? Considering where we are on the ladder and considering the lack of other forwards we have he is under mor...

The_dud... Just as the best kick from outside 60 doesn't make the best FF, neither does the best kick at goal. Does it take into account the pressure he is under while taking shots at goal too? Considering where we are on the ladder and considering the lack of other forwards we have he is under mor...

This is pure crap and can be attribute to people looking at simplistic stats rather than weighted stats. The sheer amount of shots fev has from outside 50 is the reason why his overall % is so far down. Fevola is one of (if not the best) shots from outside 50 in the game. I'd back his conversion ra...

does anyone know a time frame of when he should be able to get back to full training and do a decent pre-season for next year?