matrix wrote:How dare you break down the quote and answer each individual question.
You should be ashamed for trying to have a decent convo.

Issues and never been. Sad really.

matrix wrote:Ffs.
Please no

Are doubt we are interested now that we want Carlisle but why wouldn't you want him?

I'd have to agree with many on here in that unless we can bend E'dope over to an extent we shouldn't trade for Carlisle. I'd prefer us to keep drafting like we have been. Can anyone point me towards a reference to Josh Kelly moving from GWS ? I'd prefer him to a raw deal from E'dope. He fits our re...

Anyway I have probably seen him play 15 games live and that is where I got that opinion. I don't need to look at stats for him but I certainly do for many players. Given his stats though it looks like his very outside game has become more inside - a result of being in the AFL system? No doubt he ha...

[quote="plugger66" Never thought much of Kelly as a junior. We need outside players but to me he is very outside. This season one third of his possessions were contested and he averaged 3 tackles a game - he had tackle high of 9 in his last game - doesnt sound very outside to me[/quote] I...

Looks like we're casting a wide net hoping that someone accepts our offer. If Kelly is as good as his draft position then I'd prefer him rather than Carlisle. Having seen Kelly play on TV, I'm not so sure though. What do I know? I think you know a bit if you think that. I don't believe Kelly is sli...

Our pick will be about 28. True value is market value. Who or what defines market value?? Cause its certainly not your opinion Name all these OOC players that have gone cheaply. Doesn't happen. Cripps for one, Bruce another Going back through the last few years trades there seems that plenty of tea...

I would think so. Why would it be shown elsewhere? Sandy are $18. Because some people might like to watch it instead of three episode of x-factor... About 3 people watch the AFL up in Queensland so why would anyone watch the VFL? The 7th repeat of X factor would rate higher up there than the VFL. T...

Con Gorozidis wrote:Interesting pick up superduper. May well have been something in that. Collingwood get Treloar and Kreuzer, GWS get pick 2, 8, Carlton get pick 1, a Pies player and a GWS player. Would not put it past them.

Good luck to them if it happened. We need to attack trades like that.

Sounds like there is no hope of a game in NZ next season. Always was a long shot. They have no interest in AFL footy and its needing a passport made it a little harder to travel.

No spudlise No aish. Get Kelly If Carlisle was the same price as Kelly I would pick Carlisle every single time. Never thought much of Kelly as a junior. We need outside players but to me he is very outside. Also I think its a myth that we are even interested. Certainly no mention at all by people w...

The first thing is we wont have pick 24 unless we trade for it. Apologies I meant our 2nd rounder - i cant have been more than 2 picks off Second he is worth much more than that. In your opinion Third is most players who swap clubs are OOC but still get true value. Define true value?? Fourth is he ...

saintspremiers wrote:Can someone please post the odds for this match?

I can't find it on the inter webs anywhere

Also it appears VFL footy is shown only in Victoria on Channel 7. Is this the case??

I would think so. Why would it be shown elsewhere? Sandy are $18.

Young Pluggs, what chance do you think we have of getting Freeman then? I have no idea what chance we have but Essendons pick 2 when we get that back from them for our pick one and Carlisle may get it done. If someone said we would have Carlisle, Freeman and about pick 28 I would say we have had a ...

Rumoured that we rate our top 5 in the draft well ahead of the rest of the draft class and that Schache isnt considered to be in our top 5 No mention of whether any academy players are in this top 5 So here's my guess Weitering Mills Hopper Parish Tucker I'd be very surprised if Matho and Francis w...

FQF wrote:Why has this Kelly rumour not be reported whatsoever in the press? It seems completely baseless.

I'm 100% sure it is and that's why we need to try and grab players that are at least a chance.

Young Pluggs, what chance do you think we have of getting Freeman then? I have no idea what chance we have but Essendons pick 2 when we get that back from them for our pick one and Carlisle may get it done. If someone said we would have Carlisle, Freeman and about pick 28 I would say we have had a ...

if we can somehow get 2 first rounders (12-18) for pick 5 and then get carlile and aish i would be pretty happy with that. use our 2nd rounder and package someone like saunders/curren and move a couple of spots down i would call that a pretty good trade period We need to stop thinking those type of...

Rumoured that we rate our top 5 in the draft well ahead of the rest of the draft class and that Schache isnt considered to be in our top 5 No mention of whether any academy players are in this top 5 So here's my guess Weitering Mills Hopper Parish Tucker I'd be very surprised if Matho and Francis w...

I would like to get Freeman if we can. Aish I am not so sure about. There is still the go home to Sth. Aust factor. I would not trust him to stay for any period of time. Kelly if possible would be great. And Bennell, I would take the chance with him. The rewards could be very high. Carlisle I am no...

if we can somehow get 2 first rounders (12-18) for pick 5 and then get carlile and aish i would be pretty happy with that. use our 2nd rounder and package someone like saunders/curren and move a couple of spots down i would call that a pretty good trade period We need to stop thinking those type of...

I still cannot believe we extended Hickey's contract. He & our 2nd would've been perfect for Carlisle. Ever thought that we extended his contract so that he COULDN'T just walk? At 24 he hardly played this year, wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out for more opportunities Why did he sign then?

Rumoured that we rate our top 5 in the draft well ahead of the rest of the draft class and that Schache isnt considered to be in our top 5 No mention of whether any academy players are in this top 5 So here's my guess Weitering Mills Hopper Parish Tucker I'd be very surprised if Matho and Francis w...

Sainternist wrote:Essendon need another ruckman. Is Longer or Hickey worth trading for Carlisle?

We would need to throw in our second rounder as well but it isn't going to happen. Pretty sure they are getting Luenberger.

Also very ambivalent about giving up a first round pick for this guy. No question that he has some good skills, but putting the cue in the rack isn't a trait that brings great promise. Carlisle was the 24th pick in the 2009. I say give them a second round pick for him, or a 3rd round pick and a fri...