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by saintsRrising
Tue 02 Jan 2024 11:02pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: St Kilda to kick on
Replies: 36
Views: 2885

Re: St Kilda to kick on

I think Lyon is a good example of someone who whilst not running the various departments… demonstrates a reasonable level of insight into how they work and consequently has a degree of input as to what he wants from them. BM and I are having this discussion RE Richo (sorry Vortex, I won’t bring it ...
by saintsRrising
Sat 30 Dec 2023 5:06pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Au Revoir Chris Toce
Replies: 139
Views: 10888

Re: Au Revoir Chris Toce

Roughead now also gone. No surprises there, sR. Sacked or moved on/made redundant? I suspect he either picked up on, or was told, that he would not be required. Callum Twomey @CalTwomey St Kilda’s recruiter Jarryd Roughead has resigned from his role, making the call before the club’s Christmas brea...
by saintsRrising
Sat 30 Dec 2023 3:03pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Au Revoir Chris Toce
Replies: 139
Views: 10888

Re: Au Revoir Chris Toce

Roughead now also gone.
by saintsRrising
Sun 17 Dec 2023 11:44pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?
Replies: 34
Views: 2348

Re: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?

Thoughts? I think the club next year will be doing its best to acquire a Free Agent or two. So will not gain any FA Compo picks. And nothing wrong with grabbing a good 26 year old next year. We now have quite a young list with the majority of players capable of playing many years if they are good e...
by saintsRrising
Sun 17 Dec 2023 8:41pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?
Replies: 34
Views: 2348

Re: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?

Thoughts? I think the club next year will be doing its best to acquire a Free Agent or two. So will not gain any FA Compo picks. And nothing wrong with grabbing a good 26 year old next year. We now have quite a young list with the majority of players capable of playing many years if they are good e...
by saintsRrising
Sun 17 Dec 2023 5:51pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?
Replies: 34
Views: 2348

Re: Howe do we grab an extra FRDP for next year?

Thoughts? I think the club next year will be doing its best to acquire a Free Agent or two. So will not gain any FA Compo picks. And nothing wrong with grabbing a good 26 year old next year. We now have quite a young list with the majority of players capable of playing many years if they are good e...
by saintsRrising
Thu 14 Dec 2023 10:45pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: We’re going to win the premiership in 2024!!!
Replies: 37
Views: 4217

Re: We’re going to win the premiership in 2024!!!

Put a pin in it and remember when it happens that I called it here first. I am super excited for next year. We were pretty decent in 2023… we were close to the form team for the first 8 or so rounds even with an injury ravaged line up. Collingwood just got by us Port too Brisbane (our bogey team in...
by saintsRrising
Sat 09 Dec 2023 11:07pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Are St Kilda ruthless enough to...........
Replies: 44
Views: 37008

Re: Are St Kilda ruthless enough to...........

Bradley Hill - will be 31 on July 9th 2024. If we could get a pick in the 20's I would trade him. Thoughts? Hill is vital for the fortunes of several of our young indigenous players staying at the club, and in their development. Hill therefore is going nowhere. Besides a player like Hill could play...
by saintsRrising
Sat 02 Dec 2023 8:24pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Will these players be better.....
Replies: 33
Views: 28005

Re: Will these players be better.....

Nick DalSanto Claus wrote: Fri 01 Dec 2023 4:13pm
In all, that makes 18 new players who will form the nucleus of what should be a team capable of challenging for a flag in the next decade.
While I like you post, I would hope it is THIS decade as next year is only 2024.

Though perhaps you mean 2024-2033.
by saintsRrising
Thu 23 Nov 2023 11:55pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Broken Sandringham promise
Replies: 36
Views: 17631

Re: Broken Sandringham promise

saintfreddy wrote: Thu 23 Nov 2023 11:35am I remember a lot written about closer links to Sandringham
Not enough it would seem.
saintfreddy wrote: Thu 23 Nov 2023 11:35am especially around taking on a player from the team.
Next year
by saintsRrising
Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:40am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovators win, not imitators!
Replies: 19
Views: 10738

Re: Innovators win, not imitators!

There is nothing innovative about going all out on athletes which is what this trade and draft period has been. ?????? Peris and Allison are examples of all out athletes. The players we have picked up this year are virtually all quick and good runners apart from Arie, but all are genuinely good foo...
by saintsRrising
Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:37am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovators win, not imitators!
Replies: 19
Views: 10738

Re: Innovators win, not imitators!

I wonder if they could throw a life line to Jack Peris for another shot given his speed base. No, as RTB and Co also want players who are genuine footballers, and Peris struggled with football judgement and skills. Allison may be off next year. Especially with Arie being a likely upgrade on him to ...
by saintsRrising
Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:31am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Speed
Replies: 18
Views: 12546

Re: Speed

The list emphasis on speed as well as endurance running will have been another factor in both Billings and Gresham going.

Post his injuries I reckon that Gresham lost some of his pace, plus his kicking distance.
by saintsRrising
Thu 23 Nov 2023 12:22am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: INs & OUTs 20% Turnover
Replies: 28
Views: 17028

Re: INs & OUTs 20% Turnover

IN (9) Paddy Dow Liam Henry Darcy Wilson Lance Collard Angus Hastie Hugo Garcia Arie Schoenmaker Riley Bonner Liam O'Connell OUT (9) Jack Billings Nick Coffield Jade Gresham Daniel McKenzie Tom Highmore Jack Bytel Leo Connolly Oscar Adams Jack Peris So one more than last year at present. IN last ye...
by saintsRrising
Mon 20 Nov 2023 2:22pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sandringham Dragons
Replies: 23
Views: 6965

Re: Sandringham Dragons

You wouldn’t call an incredibly small number of players a fertile success story, Again, this is an extra option. I already stated that it was less likely. and as I say those types of recruits only seem to work at rich successful clubs The Dees were not that flash when Stynes and White arrived there...
by saintsRrising
Mon 20 Nov 2023 1:38pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sandringham Dragons
Replies: 23
Views: 6965

Re: Sandringham Dragons

A better strategy/option than It is an EXTRA option. The main draft is also better than the rookie draft or SSP, but neither should be ignored just because the National Draft has a higher chance of success. bringing in foreigners who grew up playing a different code. There a number of premiership p...
by saintsRrising
Sun 19 Nov 2023 1:18am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Max King
Replies: 14
Views: 4416

Re: Max King

King is a top 5 tall forward in the AFL Higgins and Butler are one of the better combinations of small forward in the AFL (both top 20 with arguments for higher) Marshall is a top 5 ruckman in the AFL Wilkie a top 5 tall defender in the AFL Jack Sinclair a top 10 small defender in the AFL . Why hav...
by saintsRrising
Sun 19 Nov 2023 12:19am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Who do we want in the ND
Replies: 148
Views: 73867

Re: Who do we want in the ND

I think our brains trust in the footy department were swayed by the fact that Max King was a Saints supporter... weren't they? Well in this case that would be a no, as it was between King and Rozze. And Rozee also grew up as a St Kilda Supporter. "Rozee, also a Saints fan who was comfortable w...
by saintsRrising
Tue 14 Nov 2023 11:48pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Who do we want in the ND
Replies: 148
Views: 73867

Re: Who do we want in the ND

B.M wrote: Sun 12 Nov 2023 11:04pm With FRDPs

You always go best available- regardless

You are drafting a ten to fifteen year player - immediate needs don’t come into it!

Draft for talent
Trade for needs

Exactly right.
by saintsRrising
Sun 12 Nov 2023 10:40am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: St Kilda's Strengths and Weakness
Replies: 57
Views: 9358

Re: St Kilda's Strengths and Weakness

I have been saying this for an eternity and I'll say it again, we need board positions created that have the sole responsibility for football and recruiting, and the positions need to be filled with suitably qualified and competent football people, Leigh Mathews types. That's your "whatever it...
by saintsRrising
Sun 12 Nov 2023 10:34am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: St Kilda's Strengths and Weakness
Replies: 57
Views: 9358

Re: St Kilda's Strengths and Weakness

We need to poach the best recruiters. I would tend to think that we have gone ok since Toce became our head recruiter. He seems to have a good eye for talent. Did well when was just focused on particular states. Now before Toce, yes a horror story. And a horror story made worse by too many very poo...
by saintsRrising
Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:52pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Crystal ball Rnd 1 2024
Replies: 46
Views: 13244

Re: Crystal ball Rnd 1 2024

And somehow Dow is gonna be Mr Fix it! . He is just one of the changes: Henry will also play midfield, though probably not as much. They are chasing more young mids - but this is probably a 3 year draft project As Owens and the Poo mature they will probably get more midfield minutes, along with Win...
by saintsRrising
Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:43pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Crystal ball Rnd 1 2024
Replies: 46
Views: 13244

Re: Crystal ball Rnd 1 2024

Now trading is done ( pick swaps can still happen) i thought i would start the Rnd 1 best 22 discussion. I have used the following parameters to get to this: - expected natural improvement after another pre season - fit list (unlikely but can hope) - older guys early round may be a little behind ot...
by saintsRrising
Fri 10 Nov 2023 11:37pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Dan McKenzie
Replies: 116
Views: 22665

Re: Dan McKenzie

It says he will not get a contract renewal here. https://www.saints.com.au/news/1462654/list-update-daniel-mckenzie No, what you have stated is not correct. He may still get a contract for 2024, he just will not get a he will not receive a senior playing contract for 2024 If his body goes ok he may...
by saintsRrising
Thu 09 Nov 2023 12:56am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Dan McKenzie
Replies: 116
Views: 22665

Re: Dan McKenzie

Daniel is a solid citizen but no star - why are we forking out cash to delist him, get him maybe right with no guarantee we even secure him if he gets back? We forked out the cash in order to see if he can play on. List spots are more precious than cash. He only get picked up again if he does not b...