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whilst i luv ya Dmac
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Post: # 1708923Post magnifisaint »

saynta wrote:J O is thankfully, never going to happen. Moorabbin is our home. Physically and spiritually.
+1 That's where we won our premiership. JO certainly won't be the go.


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Post: # 1708931Post Dis Believer »

Dave McNamara wrote:
samuraisaint wrote:And Richmond train at Craigieburn now. How's that working out for them?

Blaming Seaford for all of our woes was, and is, definitely counter-productive. Like sacking coaches. It doesn't work. Blaming something, or someone, for not being successful is what losers do.
Hi SS, I reckon that you're misrepresenting the point somewhat with that argument. None of those things you listed are really what this thread is about. No point my reinventing the wheel so to speak. So, if you ever get a few spare minutes, please just have a little look back through the pages of this thread. :) All the reasons-why are there.

But, basically the St Kilda Bowling Club was about to fold, but they turned it all around (big time) by leveraging their location... St Kilda. We can, and need to do the same...

- Get back to the grooviest suburb in Melbourne (arguably, in Australia).
- Tap into that 'vibe'.
- Tap into the marketing (sponsors, international tourists, grand prix crowds, St Kilda Music Festival crowds... the list goes on).
- Establish a boutique venue (and make money c/f paying out $75K for a 26,000 home crowd - Richmond train over summer somewhere halfway to Canberra, but not during the footy season... and they don't play home games there.)
- Make our home games 'an event'.
- Get that social club rocking again. (If the St Kilda bowlo' can do it, we sure can!)
- St Kilda stands alone amongst 17 vanilla same-same football teams. We are unique. We don't do vanilla. That's marketable.
- This is way way more important than winning our next premiership, because...
- Do this right, and we can become the best known Australian sporting club... both domestically, and... internationally.
- And premierships will follow.




Or... we could continue on living hand to mouth, constantly at risk bankruptcy and hence having to do the bidding of the AFL like a good little lap dog, and hey, occasionally rising up to the ladder, before crashing down again... empty handed. :(
Dave, whilst I admire your passion, unless you possess a flux capacitor, you cannot return to the past, and that looks largely what you are trying to do. There is a modicum of marketability in what you propose, but I think that is limited. I think marketing based around a suburb is also fraught with limitations, we need to be building a message around our club, and what it stands for, irrelelvant of location, because that is what will travel with us, and ultimately is a far more sound basis for our marketing. Solid management of our club by the board with some vision for the future, stability and no "knee-jerk" decision making is what will stand us in good stead, not trading on the tenuous marketability of a suburb, no matter how groovy "the vibe" may be.....


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Post: # 1709443Post Dave McNamara »

True Believer wrote:
Dave McNamara wrote:
samuraisaint wrote:And Richmond train at Craigieburn now. How's that working out for them?

Blaming Seaford for all of our woes was, and is, definitely counter-productive. Like sacking coaches. It doesn't work. Blaming something, or someone, for not being successful is what losers do.
Hi SS, I reckon that you're misrepresenting the point somewhat with that argument. None of those things you listed are really what this thread is about. No point my reinventing the wheel so to speak. So, if you ever get a few spare minutes, please just have a little look back through the pages of this thread. :) All the reasons-why are there.

But, basically the St Kilda Bowling Club was about to fold, but they turned it all around (big time) by leveraging their location... St Kilda. We can, and need to do the same...

- Get back to the grooviest suburb in Melbourne (arguably, in Australia).
- Tap into that 'vibe'.
- Tap into the marketing (sponsors, international tourists, grand prix crowds, St Kilda Music Festival crowds... the list goes on).
- Establish a boutique venue (and make money c/f paying out $75K for a 26,000 home crowd - Richmond train over summer somewhere halfway to Canberra, but not during the footy season... and they don't play home games there.)
- Make our home games 'an event'.
- Get that social club rocking again. (If the St Kilda bowlo' can do it, we sure can!)
- St Kilda stands alone amongst 17 vanilla same-same football teams. We are unique. We don't do vanilla. That's marketable.
- This is way way more important than winning our next premiership, because...
- Do this right, and we can become the best known Australian sporting club... both domestically, and... internationally.
- And premierships will follow.




Or... we could continue on living hand to mouth, constantly at risk bankruptcy and hence having to do the bidding of the AFL like a good little lap dog, and hey, occasionally rising up to the ladder, before crashing down again... empty handed. :(
Dave, whilst I admire your passion, unless you possess a flux capacitor, you cannot return to the past, and that looks largely what you are trying to do. There is a modicum of marketability in what you propose, but I think that is limited. I think marketing based around a suburb is also fraught with limitations, we need to be building a message around our club, and what it stands for, irrelelvant of location, because that is what will travel with us, and ultimately is a far more sound basis for our marketing. Solid management of our club by the board with some vision for the future, stability and no "knee-jerk" decision making is what will stand us in good stead, not trading on the tenuous marketability of a suburb, no matter how groovy "the vibe" may be.....
I agree with nearly all of that, TB. (Especially your admiration for passion. :mrgreen: )

We certainly don't want to go back to the past... as has been rightly pointed out by saynta, and that other bloke who used to post on here, and also that other bloke who is no longer with us, but at least we now have his parents posting, which is very nice. :)

No, not back to the that past. We want to build a new future. We (finally) leverage our suburb (as above), and tap into our unique identity that separates us from the seventeen vanilla entities. This is the one point where I differ from you TB. If done right, there's nothing tenuous about the marketability of the St Kilda FC back home in St Kilda.

Grand Prix crowds (with international media - which of the vanillas could even dream of that??? :mrgreen: ), international backpacker destination, get that social club rocking again, St Kilda Music Festival crowds, the beach ... and yes, most definitely... the very marketable... vibe. 8-)

Proof?

We were out of mind and out of sight.
Hidden away at the bottom of the ladder, and outer Siberia.
Basically... irrelevant to all (non-Saintas).
And... unable to snare a major sponsor! :oops: :( <that's scary emoticon>

Then out of the blue, front page of the newspapers, and Gaggle internetty... "Saints Homeward Bound"! We are the numero uno news item!

Suddenly... unsolicited... the club starts receiving phone calls from potential major sponsors. :shock: Coincidence...? :wink:

Saints returning home to St Kilda? Tenuous marketability...?



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Post: # 1709953Post Dave McNamara »

The Plugger666 wrote:
The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
+3
What Firey, Pluggsy, and Pluggsy's parents said!

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(+1) +1


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Get back to JO.
Get the social club rocking again.
Pick up chicks, I mean, pick up more memberchicks. 8-)

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The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
+3


It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
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Post: # 1710095Post Dave McNamara »

Plugger666 wrote:
The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
+3
Do it for Firey and for Pluggsy (and his folks), :D and so our club can stop paying out $73K and upwards for our home games at Dockledlands. :evil:


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asiu wrote:lol @ memberchicks
We can never have too many memberchicks. :)




Plugger666 wrote:
The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
+3
Do it for Firey and for Pluggsy (and his folks), :D and so our club can stop paying out $73K and upwards for each of our home games at Dockledlands. :evil:


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evertonfc wrote:(If we had our own ground and identity I would feel completely different about this...)


:idea:


Plugger666 wrote:
The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
+3


It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
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... have I missed anything ?


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Saint 58 wrote:https://imagebin.ca/v/3t6ljXV1pg8N

... have I missed anything ?
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Saint 58 wrote:https://imagebin.ca/v/3t6ljXV1pg8N

... have I missed anything ?

Only the 200 million it would cost



and a ferris wheel would be nice


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200 Million ?
- Lindsay Fox, he's worth 3.4 Billion
- if 17% of my net worth would make it happen, I would gladly hand it over
Ferris Wheel - no room, go to Docklands


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Post: # 1712634Post Dave McNamara »

saintbrat wrote:Image

no goal posts?
http://www.bushrangers.com.au/1791-2/
Those Cricket Victoria idiots are trumpeting their new facilities... but it could, and should... be (at least) $15million better. :idea:

Idiots! :evil:


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ausfatcat wrote:
Saint 58 wrote:https://imagebin.ca/v/3t6ljXV1pg8N

... have I missed anything ?

Only the 200 million it would cost



and a ferris wheel would be nice
Aussie. How do you reach a figure of $200 million?

Much of S58's visionary post (our Saints need more visionaries!) is for phases three & four of the grand plan. :)

JO, as it is right now, held a crowd of 26000+ for the last Community Cup footy match held there. We don't need to start with anything too ginormous.



(I'd fast track your ferris wheel though Aus. Now that's what I mean by visionary! The ultimate in corporate boxes. :D )



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Plugger666 wrote:
The Fireman wrote:the JO is the GO
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It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
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Dave here's a very rough break down of the $200m


seating 30 to 40m (based on Ballarat stadium 15m for 11,00 seats)
general facilities 14m (based on Moorrabins cost)
walkways ect (5m+ each)
Railway line (s*** loads)


ferris wheel 140m (vital part of the project)


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ausfatcat wrote:Dave here's a very rough break down of the $200m


seating 30 to 40m (based on Ballarat stadium 15m for 11,00 seats)
general facilities 14m (based on Moorrabins cost)
walkways ect (5m+ each)
Railway line (s*** loads)


ferris wheel 140m (vital part of the project)
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ausfatcat wrote:Dave here's a very rough break down of the $200m


seating 30 to 40m (based on Ballarat stadium 15m for 11,00 seats)
general facilities 14m (based on Moorrabins cost)
walkways ect (5m+ each)
Railway line (s*** loads)


ferris wheel 140m (vital part of the project)
The JO Redevelopment Consortium has decided to scrap the Junction Oval train line extension.
The JO Public Transport Sub Committee neglected to take into account the new Metro Rail Tunnel which has Anzac Station as part of its construction.
Patrons can access this station which is just over 1 Km from the ground as well as Windsor Station which is just under 1Km from the ground,
which is not too dissimilar to patrons using Flinders St Station & Richmond Station to access the MCG.
This will free up 100's of millions of dollars for other components of the project.

Note: The JO Public Transport Sub Committee has been sacked


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