AFL's Gifts to Sydney when's it our turn?

[CURLY]

Sydney have made finals 15 times out of 21 seasons. In the year they one they got Tippet for free then the following year got Buddy. Now after losing a GF they get gift a top 3 player at pick 17. Imagine us in 2008 buying Jarrod Roughead then the following year after playing in the 2009 GF getting Travis Cloke and with pick 17 getting Dustin Martin the following year getting Harly Bennel. In the mean time without the Swans gifts we've had to trade off Goddard Dal McCevoy even Dawson.

What a joke this league is.

[Sainter_Dad]

It will be our turn when - and only when -

We do not kick 4 - 14 in a game of AFL football

(I have a million of these!)

[CURLY]

It will be our turn when - and only when -

We do not kick 4 - 14 in a game of AFL football

(I have a million of these!)

If we had Goddard DaL Tippet Franklin and Heeney we would have.

[Toy Saint]

The AFL just sold broardcasting rights for $2.5m

About half of this value is derived from ratings in NSW & Queensland.

Sydney folk like watching winners, not losers.

The AFL CEO and his team are paid bonuses based on how much money they make.

So please don't think we'll ever get a 'turn'.

[saintspremiers]

The AFL just sold broardcasting rights for $2.5m

About half of this value is derived from ratings in NSW & Queensland.

Sydney folk like watching winners, not losers.

The AFL CEO and his team are paid bonuses based on how much money they make.

So please don't think we'll ever get a 'turn'.

That's very cynical.

But very true also.

[mr six o'clock]

The AFL just sold broardcasting rights for $2.5m

About half of this value is derived from ratings in NSW & Queensland.

Sydney folk like watching winners, not losers.

The AFL CEO and his team are paid bonuses based on how much money they make.

So please don't think we'll ever get a 'turn'.

That's very cynical.

But very true also.

Agree

[Bunk_Moreland]

The AFL just sold broardcasting rights for $2.5m

About half of this value is derived from ratings in NSW & Queensland.

Sydney folk like watching winners, not losers.

The AFL CEO and his team are paid bonuses based on how much money they make.

So please don't think we'll ever get a 'turn'.

That's very cynical.

But very true also.

Agree

Likemost businessmen the AFL only care how much money they can squeeze out of the game and the fans in places like Melbourne and Tasmania can get stuffed.

More money in WWE type fake football and having Sydney team get favour after favour and millions upon million poued into them.

[bergholt]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

[CURLY]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Take Tippet and Franklin out and see where they are at. A lot easier to create and maintain a good list with an extra million or more plus Academy players.

I'm sure a forward line of Jessie White and Sam Reid would have them top 4. NOT!

[saynta]

Been going on since Adam(Goodes) was a boy.

The AFL paid to steal Plugger from us.

[terry smith rules]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

[CURLY]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

All clubs have success stories with late picks and rookie players. What they dont get is access to a top 3 draft pick at 18 and two million dollar a year key forwards.

[terry smith rules]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

All clubs have success stories with late picks and rookie players. What they dont get is access to a top 3 draft pick at 18 and two million dollar a year key forwards.

two weeks ago most thought Tippet was gone and a waste of money and Buddy not play again this year, not much success there, you can't have it both way (eg one when their winning and one when their losing)

[CURLY]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

All clubs have success stories with late picks and rookie players. What they dont get is access to a top 3 draft pick at 18 and two million dollar a year key forwards.

two weeks ago most thought Tippet was gone and a waste of money and Buddy not play again this year, not much success there, you can't have it both way (eg one when their winning and one when their losing)

Cmon they made the Grand Final on the back of these two. Lets not try and down play this.

[Stephen Theodore]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Very well said.

Whilst there's no doubt the AFL want Sydney to succeed, the majority of recruiting and admin decisions have been very good over a long period.

[spert]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

The Swans just did things a lot smarter than us for a number of years in most areas- smarter and stronger leadership from the top, chose better coaches, and made the tough calls in recruiting and list management.

[plugger66]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Exactly, throw in the likes of Rampe (rookie listed) Pyke (rookie) etc etc they have recruited very well and wisely

Don't forget they had to trade out Mumford (arguably the number one ruck before injured) to free up some money, that was a huge out

The Swans just did things a lot smarter than us for a number of years in most areas- smarter and stronger leadership from the top, chose better coaches, and made the tough calls in recruiting and list management.

Totally agree but losing by 100 points fires people up.

[Grimfang]

Sydney certainly haven't had the burden of a completely dud stadium deal draining the coffers.

[HitTheBoundary]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Good post.
Depressing to read.

[CURLY]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Very well said.

Whilst there's no doubt the AFL want Sydney to succeed, the majority of recruiting and admin decisions have been very good over a long period.

Campbell Heath, Ryan Fitzgerald, Jed Lamb, and a host of other burnt first rounders but it doesnt hurt when you can cherry pick the best in the AFL.

[Stephen Theodore]

Dan Hannebery was pretty good today. The Swans took him with pick 30 in 2008. That year we took Tom Lynch with pick 13. He's playing pretty well at the moment too, but not for us.

Josh Kennedy was also pretty good. The Swans traded for him in 2009. Kennedy + Ben McGlynn cost them pick 39 (Sam Grimley), pick 46 (Ben Stratton) and pick 70 (Matt Suckling). At that point Kennedy had played 13 games. Since then he's won their B&F and been AA twice. In 2009 we traded for Andrew Lovett and Brett Peake, and took Nick Winmar, Jesse Smith, Adam Pattison and Will Johnson in the draft.

Heath Grundy was good today and has had a very solid career at full back, just keeps on keeping on. They took him with rookie pick 42 in 2004. That year we traded in Aaron Fiora and drafted Andrew McQualter, Cain Ackland, Mark McGough and James Gwilt.

Ted Richards also really good back there. They traded for him in 2005 when he'd only played 33 games, never more than 11 in a year. He cost picks 19 (Courtenay Dempsey) and 50 (Sam Lonergan), though they also got pick 54 back. That year we traded in Fergus Watts (for pick 17) and drafted Michael Rix, Phil Raymond and Justin Sweeney. Also Sam Gilbert at pick 33, who's still going pretty well. Nice to have success in there somewhere.


My point is that they've done a lot right over the last ten years, and that's why they're still going well. And conversely we've made some terrible decisions, and that's largely why we're not going so well. Believe what you want, but plenty of non-Sydney teams have won flags in the last 15 years and plenty more will in the next 15 years. Sooking about their advantages is pretty weak.

Very well said.

Whilst there's no doubt the AFL want Sydney to succeed, the majority of recruiting and admin decisions have been very good over a long period.

Campbell Heath, Ryan Fitzgerald, Jed Lamb, and a host of other burnt first rounders but it doesnt hurt when you can cherry pick the best in the AFL.

Like I said, the majority of their decisions have been very good, the same can't be said for our club. As also mentioned above, I agree the AFL want Sydney to succeed. It's not a level playing field and hasn't been for many years.

[saintspremiers]

Given how good the Swines have been in drafting, why the f*** have they been given salary cap concessions as well?

Shows how corrupted the AFL really are.

[plugger66]

Given how good the Swines have been in drafting, why the f*** have they been given salary cap concessions as well?

Shows how corrupted the AFL really are.

Worked well getting rid of Brisbane's. And Sydney's is also going. I reckon you would rather keep it so you could complain. I have no doubt you love complaining.

[saintspremiers]

Given how good the Swines have been in drafting, why the f*** have they been given salary cap concessions as well?

Shows how corrupted the AFL really are.

Worked well getting rid of Brisbane's. And Sydney's is also going. I reckon you would rather keep it so you could complain. I have no doubt you love complaining.

You are a bigger d**khead than I ever thought plugs.

[plugger66]

Given how good the Swines have been in drafting, why the f*** have they been given salary cap concessions as well?

Shows how corrupted the AFL really are.

Worked well getting rid of Brisbane's. And Sydney's is also going. I reckon you would rather keep it so you could complain. I have no doubt you love complaining.

You are a bigger d**khead than I ever thought plugs.

You know its true. Even if things change you will complain about the past.