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- meher baba
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Don't 90% of the trolls lose interest after a while and simply go away?
You will never stop trolls by restricting access to the forum: unless you put so many barriers in the way that you will drive most of the genuine members away as well.
The best thing to do with trolls is not to respond to their posts. If we could all do this, they will quickly lose interest.
I have another suggestion: limit the access of all trolls to just the Opposition and General Sports Discussion Forum. That would soon quickly them away!!
You will never stop trolls by restricting access to the forum: unless you put so many barriers in the way that you will drive most of the genuine members away as well.
The best thing to do with trolls is not to respond to their posts. If we could all do this, they will quickly lose interest.
I have another suggestion: limit the access of all trolls to just the Opposition and General Sports Discussion Forum. That would soon quickly them away!!
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possible remedy:
- lock the current registration process
- ban anyone currently known to be a troll
- open registration up for one day per month (e.g. the 1st of the month). need to clearly indicate this somewhere though, perhaps on a page which you go to when you click "Registration". this allows genuine supporters a way in. if they are found to be trolls (not too hard to figure out) ban them. they will have to wait another month to get back in.
- lock the current registration process
- ban anyone currently known to be a troll
- open registration up for one day per month (e.g. the 1st of the month). need to clearly indicate this somewhere though, perhaps on a page which you go to when you click "Registration". this allows genuine supporters a way in. if they are found to be trolls (not too hard to figure out) ban them. they will have to wait another month to get back in.
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how big an issue is it
i think forcing people to log into the forum everytime will be deterrent enough... it gets rid of those people that come have a look whenever we play their team and troll after seeing a comment they don't like
it's a lot more effort to register amd log in every time
personally I think this forum doesn't really have many trolls anyway
+ when they do... we have enough nasty edge forumites to scare them away
i think forcing people to log into the forum everytime will be deterrent enough... it gets rid of those people that come have a look whenever we play their team and troll after seeing a comment they don't like
it's a lot more effort to register amd log in every time
personally I think this forum doesn't really have many trolls anyway
+ when they do... we have enough nasty edge forumites to scare them away
Troll alert.skeptic wrote:how big an issue is it
i think forcing people to log into the forum everytime will be deterrent enough... it gets rid of those people that come have a look whenever we play their team and troll after seeing a comment they don't like
it's a lot more effort to register amd log in every time
personally I think this forum doesn't really have many trolls anyway
+ when they do... we have enough nasty edge forumites to scare them away
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I am a Forum Admin (on a totally unrelated footy site).SENsaintsational wrote:Totally disagree with suggestions of making this a members only site. You would alienate any people not financially fortunate enough to be members for a start.
This is an unofficial fan site. And should be just that.
Unless you start charging people to be a member to this site, that's another issue.
One way to stop or reduce trolls is to ask for a genuine IP address when signing up. Don't accept the generic hotmail, gmail and the like email addresses. Trolls will be less inclined to use a traceable email address.
We are not accepting any new registrations without an invite code from current Posters. Each person on here can be given 5 invite codes to distribute. Once used up they can apply for more.
May be something the mods could look into.
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They're only a problem if people make them a problem.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
That makes it even more fun.Dr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
Your previous comment was much better than this!stkildathunda wrote:How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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Agree. It was certainly more colourfulHSVKing wrote:Your previous comment was much better than this!stkildathunda wrote:How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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yes i know but thought id take the high road and edit itHSVKing wrote:Your previous comment was much better than this!stkildathunda wrote:How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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wonder if any GWS supporters will come over in their orange hatsDr Spaceman wrote:Agree. It was certainly more colourfulHSVKing wrote:Your previous comment was much better than this!stkildathunda wrote:How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
Look up ^stkildathunda wrote:wonder if any GWS supporters will come over in their orange hatsDr Spaceman wrote:Agree. It was certainly more colourfulHSVKing wrote:Your previous comment was much better than this!stkildathunda wrote:How do you knwo that they dontDr Spaceman wrote:Except the opposition at the footy normally don't drape themselves in our colours and pretend to support us.plugger66 wrote:Are trolls really a problem. To me they are just like sitting next to the opposition at the footy. Its all fun IMO. Does this also me you cant look at the site if you arent a member. To me that is way over the top.
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I'm in the same boat 10 14. Have happily read posts for years now without being a member. Love the info and the laughs. Stressed a bit today when I couldn't get on.Ten Fourteen wrote:Well I guess the login might flush a few more supporters like myself out who are regular Saintsational readers but non contributors. Looking forward to tossing my ten bobs worth in from now on!
Found the process of joining quite easy. Only took a few minutes. Easy to see how trolls can get pretty easy access.
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Yeh, much the same brother. Always enjoy watching a Saints game and following the match thread at the same time. Comforting knowing I'm not the only one going through 27 different emotions in 2 hours!8856brother wrote:I'm in the same boat 10 14. Have happily read posts for years now without being a member. Love the info and the laughs. Stressed a bit today when I couldn't get on.Ten Fourteen wrote:Well I guess the login might flush a few more supporters like myself out who are regular Saintsational readers but non contributors. Looking forward to tossing my ten bobs worth in from now on!
Found the process of joining quite easy. Only took a few minutes. Easy to see how trolls can get pretty easy access.
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Yeah it's hard work. Kind of looking forward to some stress free weekends. But wont take long before the cricket is boring and am hanging out for some footy.Ten Fourteen wrote:Yeh, much the same brother. Always enjoy watching a Saints game and following the match thread at the same time. Comforting knowing I'm not the only one going through 27 different emotions in 2 hours!8856brother wrote:I'm in the same boat 10 14. Have happily read posts for years now without being a member. Love the info and the laughs. Stressed a bit today when I couldn't get on.Ten Fourteen wrote:Well I guess the login might flush a few more supporters like myself out who are regular Saintsational readers but non contributors. Looking forward to tossing my ten bobs worth in from now on!
Found the process of joining quite easy. Only took a few minutes. Easy to see how trolls can get pretty easy access.
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I think locking the forum to members only is a crazy idea. I check this forum on my phone a lot and each time you have to log in. Given im on Vodafone half the time my phone browser times out cause of bad reception.
Not sure if there are others in that boat but its damn annoying. Also, it will stop new posters signing up. People who have never seen Saintsational before wont be able to browse around and have a look before they decide if they want to sign up or not.
On one of the first pages someone mentioned the idea that you have to be a St Kilda member to view the pages, i reckon this aint a bad idea actually. Is there anyway we could make this happen?
Not sure if there are others in that boat but its damn annoying. Also, it will stop new posters signing up. People who have never seen Saintsational before wont be able to browse around and have a look before they decide if they want to sign up or not.
On one of the first pages someone mentioned the idea that you have to be a St Kilda member to view the pages, i reckon this aint a bad idea actually. Is there anyway we could make this happen?
Ajer read this.HSVKing wrote:As previously mentioned...alex_quick wrote:i definitely support including membership details into the registration process.
do we really have such a problem with trolls? i can't say i've actually noticed..
We are not part of the Football Club, so we cannot gain the confidential information to get names and membership numbers to confirm peoples identity.
Why do people not read? (Also funny that it's coming from someone who just recently joined up).