The most Depressing game in the world

skeptic · Post: # 1184714Post **skeptic** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 2:09pm

Is the game where we re-do the draft with the benefit of hindsight.

Now for the record... I'm not having a dig at the selectors nor am I oblivious to the fact that my super hindsight drafting would change the draft order in future seasons.

So here it is... the drafting that ensures the Saints win at least 6-8 premierships.

2001
Alternatively lets keep our pick 33 for Stevie Lawrence
1. Nick Riewoldt
2. Shaun Burgoyne
33. Chris Newman
64. Graham Johncock
75. Robert Powell
82. Daniel Wulf

2002
Keep pick 17 traded for Heath Black and pick 45 for Trent Knobel
2. Chris Judd
5. James Bartel
13. Nick Dal Santo
17. Steve Johnson
21. Sam Mitchell
37. Leigh Montagna
45. Dane Swan
49. Brian Lake

2003
Keep Peter Everite (no pick 6 or 22) hence no Barry Brooks but we keep 31, would still have traded pick 17 for Luke Penny
1. Brendon Goddard
22. Jason Porplyzia
31. Brent Staker
46. Brent Moloney

2004
No Fiora
17. Mark LeCras
33. Ivan Maric
49. Chris Knights
63. James Gwilt
71. Eddie Betts

2005
Keep pick 17 - no Fergus Watt
17. Sam Gilbert
33. Andrew Swallow
49. Paul Duffield
63. Matthew Priddis

2006
9. Jack Riewoldt
27. Kurt Tippet
59. Josh Hill
74. David Rodan

Boy howdy

Bernard Shakey · Fri 23 Dec 2011 2:17pm

David Rodan?

Saints94 · Post: # 1184716Post **Saints94** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 2:20pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?

Was delisted by richmond in 06.

Bernard Shakey · Fri 23 Dec 2011 2:46pm

Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.

I know. Why would we want him?

sunsaint · Post: # 1184722Post **sunsaint** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 3:44pm

for a minute I thought the OP was about soccer

SaintSimmo · Fri 23 Dec 2011 3:48pm

sunsaint wrote:for a minute I thought the OP was about soccer

same

Little Dozer · Fri 23 Dec 2011 4:14pm

Taking Judd before Ball will probably end up costing the club 5 premierships.

Pwoit · Post: # 1184738Post **Pwoit** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 4:45pm

SaintSimmo wrote:
sunsaint wrote:for a minute I thought the OP was about soccer
same

And again

Doctor Two · Fri 23 Dec 2011 5:46pm

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White Winmar · Fri 23 Dec 2011 6:10pm

20/20 hindsight is the best sort of vision. Imagine the dream your life would be if you had that gift! Reality is a lot tougher!

skeptic · Post: # 1184786Post **skeptic** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 9:30pm

White Winmar wrote:20/20 hindsight is the best sort of vision. Imagine the dream your life would be if you had that gift! Reality is a lot tougher!

so true and so sad

skeptic · Post: # 1184787Post **skeptic** » Fri 23 Dec 2011 9:30pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.
I know. Why would we want him?

he's been descent value for the power since they got him

Bernard Shakey · Fri 23 Dec 2011 9:51pm

skeptic wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.
I know. Why would we want him?
he's been descent value for the power since they got him

Wow, and what have they done since they got him? Almost disappeared!

kosifantutti23 · Fri 23 Dec 2011 10:45pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
skeptic wrote:
he's been descent value for the power since they got him
Wow, and what have they done since they got him? Almost disappeared!

I thought it was a deliberate spelling mistake

Con Gorozidis · Fri 23 Dec 2011 11:32pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.
I know. Why would we want him?

knees aside. for pick 76 rodan is a gun. do u guys even watch footy?

as for the 2002 draft. holy smokes!!!! wowsers!!! imagine if we had those guys.

desertsaint · Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:12am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.
I know. Why would we want him?
knees aside. for pick 76 rodan is a gun. do u guys even watch footy?...

maybe, but have a look at the team skeptic has assembled - he wouldn't go close to getting a game!

desertsaint · Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:12am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:David Rodan?
Was delisted by richmond in 06.
I know. Why would we want him?
knees aside. for pick 76 rodan is a gun. do u guys even watch footy?...

maybe, but have a look at the team skeptic has assembled - he wouldn't go close to getting a game!

skeptic · Post: # 1184812Post **skeptic** » Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:45am

lets give this ago

B Johncock, Lake, Newman
HB Burgoyne, S.Fisher, Goddard
C Montagna, Mitchell, Bartel
HF Dal Santo, N.Riewoldt, Swan
F Milne, J.Riewoldt, S. Johnson
R Everite, Hayes, Judd
Int Moloney, Swallow, Gwilt, Duffield
Emg LeCras, Maric, Gilbert

Note I missed Sam Fisher initally going for Porps... undo that

I'm a little light on for ruckman it seems but then we would get McEvoy in 07 plus I could pbly stand to trade a few players to get Kruezer too

What can i say... i'm good

bobmurray · Post: # 1184820Post **bobmurray** » Sat 24 Dec 2011 7:55am

skeptic wrote:lets give this ago

B Johncock, Lake, Newman
HB Burgoyne, S.Fisher, Goddard
C Montagna, Mitchell, Bartel
HF Dal Santo, N.Riewoldt, Swan
F Milne, J.Riewoldt, S. Johnson
R Everite, Hayes, Judd
Int Moloney, Swallow, Gwilt, Duffield
Emg LeCras, Maric, Gilbert

Note I missed Sam Fisher initally going for Porps... undo that

I'm a little light on for ruckman it seems but then we would get McEvoy in 07 plus I could pbly stand to trade a few players to get Kruezer too

What can i say... i'm good

Who is Everite...

anyway,i doubt some 40 year old empty head would be the ruckman..

remboy · Post: # 1184843Post **remboy** » Sat 24 Dec 2011 11:45am

A midfield with Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard, Mitchell, Bartel, Swan and Judd

Just as well the salary cap is $20 million

Dr Spaceman · Sat 24 Dec 2011 12:08pm

remboy wrote:A midfield with Hayes, Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard, Mitchell, Bartel, Swan and Judd
Just as well the salary cap is $20 million

Yes, but they're all ambassadors for Gregorys Transport, working 5 minutes a month on salaries of $2,000,000 each.

The $50 pa the club pays them goes into the cap of course

Dan Warna · Post: # 1184853Post **Dan Warna** » Sat 24 Dec 2011 1:18pm

what st kilda needs is more environmental ambassadors.

The list we had got within a kick of 2 premierships.

noting the poster given to Hawkins

shuffling the decks is no guarantee.

And of course 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

got within a bad umpires call of of a grandfinal in 2004.

Shoulda, coulda, didn't.

Who said shuffling the deck chairs wouldn't have resulted in the same situation.

judd might have left faster for Carlton $$$ if he was at st kilda.

samuraisaint · Sat 24 Dec 2011 5:37pm

This.

There is no guarantee that Judd would have stayed had we drafted him - look at how players like Hamill, Kosi, Ball and Maguire - not to mention X - were handled before 2008 by our so-called conditioning team. Judd would have been played week in week out, with very little rehab and probably would have wrecked his shoulder completely, and then left to go to any club which would manage his body better.

Much as I loved how we played under GT, the state or our players by September left us with no chance of winning the big one. We would not have been able to take Brisbane in 2004 had we made it. Sure we had beaten them a couple of times by a few points at that stage, but they would have monstered us in a Grannie.

Chris Newman?!? A good player in a shocking team he may be, but still...

borderbarry · Sat 24 Dec 2011 5:59pm

Brisbane woukd not have monstered anyone in 2004. Port monstered them, after beating us by 6 points at their home ground, with the help of some dubious umpiring.

skeptic · Post: # 1184877Post **skeptic** » Sat 24 Dec 2011 6:06pm

ur pbly right, we were pbly better off with the team we had rather than the 1 above