With a Fully Fit Squad ?

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With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377052Post CURLY »

Purely guess work but how many more games would we have won with our list fit from Round 1? Fisher, Dempster and Gwilt all came into the season underdone which is the worst thing that we could have hoped for. Injuries obviously effect all clubs but this is a question as to our list. Another thing to take into account is blokes like Blake being left out as we try and develop younger players.

Thoughts on how many we could have won?


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377054Post dragit »

I guessed 6 wins before the season started… reckon that would be about right with no injuries.

We had a very soft draw this year, the injuries have made things difficult, but 3 wins says we are a very ordinary side at the moment.

Lot's of good effort shown, but our skills and experience mean we are miles away from the top 8.


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377055Post mad saint guy »

A fully fit team picked to win the most games this year would be something like this

B: Gwilt, Blake, Geary
HB: Dempster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Montagna, Hayes, Dal Santo
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Lee, Stanley

Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Armitage
Int: Ray, Jones, Gilbert
Sub: Dunell

I'd say that team would finish about 12th-15th. It still has the issues of poor footskills, lack of midfield pace/depth, lack of quality key defenders and too many small forwards. Not to mention a disfunctional game plan.


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377058Post dragit »

mad saint guy wrote: B: Gwilt, Blake, Geary
HB: Dempster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Montagna, Hayes, Dal Santo
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Lee, Stanley

Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Armitage
Int: Ray, Jones, Gilbert
Sub: Dunell
Yes… a few more wins and no experience into Murdoch, Newnes, Webster, Wright, Hickey, Curren, Ross, Siposs, Simpkin, Milera, Saunders… Ledger (get it :D )

Maybe the injuries have been a small blessing… the small forward obsession has been a worry though and sucked games away from a few above.
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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377059Post Con Gorozidis »

Wouldnt have made any difference


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Post: # 1377064Post dragit »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldnt have made any difference
None? not 1 win?


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377065Post CURLY »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldnt have made any difference

You seriously dont think we wouldnt have got over the line against WC or Port and a couple of others with a fit Fisher and co? Odd call very odd in fact.


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377067Post mr six o'clock »

Our problem is not fitness , its disposal !

How many times yesterday when going forward did we kick the ball straight to the oppostion ?


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dragit wrote:
mad saint guy wrote: B: Gwilt, Blake, Geary
HB: Dempster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Montagna, Hayes, Dal Santo
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Lee, Stanley

Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Armitage
Int: Ray, Jones, Gilbert
Sub: Dunell
Yes… a few more wins and no experience into Murdoch, Newnes, Webster, Wright, Hickey, Curren, Ross, Siposs, Simpkin, Milera, Saunders… Ledger (get it :D )

Maybe the injuries have been a small blessing… the small forward obsession has been a worry though and sucked games away from a few above.
ledger was BOG on saturday for sandy....imho....


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377073Post borderbarry »

In the first half of the season we may have some additional games, but not the last half.
But then again??


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377092Post plugger66 »

One or two more wins but every side has injuries. I dont think ours have been much worse than most sides.


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377097Post gringo »

We had a compounded problem in the fact we got rid of Zac, Gram, Goddard and Raph who were a large part of our best back line. Then as you said we had injuries to Fisher, Gwilt, Dempster, Newnes, Wright etc.

The positive is we have now developed Roberton and Geary as very solid players and it has meant we have got games into kids like Newnes and Wright quicker than we may have otherwise.

The negative is we may have destroyed the confidence of Rhys Stanley.

Over all we just copped too many in one area which probably cost us a few games. Momentum is an amazing thing in sport- win a few and confidence grows, could have been a completely different year but at least we have fast tracked the kids.


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377153Post cwrcyn »

Would have won 3 or 4 more games. That's all.


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Post: # 1377184Post southernsaint »

Thats the silver lining this year is the extra games into the kids the bonus this year is roberton, curren and minchington


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377208Post gringo »

southernsaint wrote:Thats the silver lining this year is the extra games into the kids the bonus this year is roberton, curren and minchington

WCE had a similar issue with injuries to key seniors after a clean out and it turn up plenty of depth for them and forced a fast tracking of youth same with Hawks a few years ago and Freo under Mark Harvey- it is a good way to get a squad that runs deep rather than how we were with guys like Steven Armo, Geary and Eddie all just outside the 22 but with very little game experience.


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gringo wrote:
southernsaint wrote:Thats the silver lining this year is the extra games into the kids the bonus this year is roberton, curren and minchington

WCE had a similar issue with injuries to key seniors after a clean out and it turn up plenty of depth for them and forced a fast tracking of youth same with Hawks a few years ago and Freo under Mark Harvey- it is a good way to get a squad that runs deep rather than how we were with guys like Steven Armo, Geary and Eddie all just outside the 22 but with very little game experience.
tom lynch would be quite handy now...more upside than lee or beau.....


pity we didn't give him a go.....thanks lyin.... :evil:


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Re: With a Fully Fit Squad ?

Post: # 1377252Post Kickit »

mad saint guy wrote:A fully fit team picked to win the most games this year would be something like this

B: Gwilt, Blake, Geary
HB: Dempster, Fisher, Roberton
C: Montagna, Hayes, Dal Santo
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Saad
F: Milne, Lee, Stanley

Foll: McEvoy, Steven, Armitage
Int: Ray, Jones, Gilbert
Sub: Dunell

I'd say that team would finish about 12th-15th. It still has the issues of poor footskills, lack of midfield pace/depth, lack of quality key defenders and too many small forwards. Not to mention a disfunctional game plan.
If Curren can maintain his form ( the big question ) I'd have him in ahead of Saad, ( don't like the 3 smalls and don't agree it would win the most games ). Not sure I'd have Dunnel ahead of Newnes or Ross either.
Not sure if I'd have Blake at full back and Gilbert on the bench either. I'd go Fisher FB , Blake out, and Newnes in.


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