SEN Apologise to Pelchen.

[whiskers3614]

Getting this apology was driven by our president.

Good on him.
We can now put it in the over-flowing trophy cabinet with all those flags!

[HitTheBoundary]

Getting this apology was driven by our president.

Good on him.
We can now put it in the over-flowing trophy cabinet with all those flags!

You have to start somewhere.

I hope this is a sign the Saints are going to be a bit more aggressive/assertive/protective of our brand from now on. Obviously no off field stuff ups and improved on field performance will help.

[busso mick]

Getting this apology was driven by our president.

Good on him.
We can now put it in the over-flowing trophy cabinet with all those flags!

Dermott has a lot of flags - my guess is that he has this one

[Wrote for Luck]

goes to show that if you don't have anything nice to say about someone you shouldn't say anything at all. I will now contradict that.
I would like to hear an apology from that Sunrise d**khead for what he said on his retarded program. like he feels he can get on his high horse, from the safety of his own cameras and moronic audience, based on one respectable season.

[stinger]

I heard that interview and it sounded like a straight defamation case. SEN shouldn't have exploited a vulnerable Dermie who was probably in an overly emotional state. I think Pelchen would have had a nice holiday if they didn't do the apology.

i'd say that sen has received a letter from the pelican's legal advisers threatening to sue their arses off if an apology was not immediately forthcoming.......

i'd still sue the bastards...and mark fine.....

[plugger66]

I heard that interview and it sounded like a straight defamation case. SEN shouldn't have exploited a vulnerable Dermie who was probably in an overly emotional state. I think Pelchen would have had a nice holiday if they didn't do the apology.

i'd say that sen has received a letter from the pelican's legal advisers threatening to sue their arses off if an apology was not immediately forthcoming.......

i'd still sue the bastards...and mark fine.....

And your sue Mark Fine for what? Being right.

[philtee]

I'm no lawyer, but...
Interesting that the statement is on behalf of SEN, Schwartz and Ellen, but not Dermie, the implication
being that Derm is being pursued separately or has stubbornly refused to join this apology/retraction.

The link to the retraction is on the SEN home page.

Again, I'm no lawyer, but truth is a defence in defamation cases, so we can only assume that despite
all of their resources, SEN could NOT prove ANY of the statements for which they have issued the
apology.

Derm is an adult and a long-standing media performer, and should know all about handling
the discussion of hot issues and the risk of making possible defamatory statements. Some very poor
decision-making by him, to land SEN, Schwartz and Ellen in the poo.

Schwartz and Ellen could have interjected to mitigate the fallout, but it appears they didn't.

IMHO - an outcome like this, a statement of retraction, is infinitely preferable to a damages
payout handed down by a court where no-one says "I'm sorry" or "I wuz wrong".

And here's the extract from Pelchen's letter to Members - "In June 2013, an extensive 40 page document was
presented to St Kilda's Board of Directors outlining a complex and deliberate list management and recruiting strategy
aimed at delivering the Saints its next AFL Premiership. This plan was based on similar strategies developed during
my time at Port Adelaide from 1996-2004 and Hawthorn from 2005-2011."

Not quite claiming the flag there. It's what any normal person would put on their CV, no?

[satchmo]

And here's the extract from Pelchen's letter to Members - "In June 2013, an extensive 40 page document was
presented to St Kilda's Board of Directors outlining a complex and deliberate list management and recruiting strategy
aimed at delivering the Saints its next AFL Premiership. This plan was based on similar strategies developed during
my time at Port Adelaide from 1996-2004 and Hawthorn from 2005-2011."

Not quite claiming the flag there. It's what any normal person would put on their CV, no?

Thanks for that. It clearly demonstrates how a little tweaking of the facts can be a damning fallacy.

[saintbrat]

did anyone find a report of the statement in the hard copy of either paper?

not in my editions( and time of statement not a reason)

and can't see on SEN home page http://www.sen.com.au/
and audio upload have dried up - no full program highlights at present.

[stinger]

IMHO - an outcome like this, a statement of retraction, is infinitely preferable to a damages
payout handed down by a court where no-one says "I'm sorry" or "I wuz wrong".
?

in cut and dried cases such as this you can usually get both.....

[kosifantutti]

And here's the extract from Pelchen's letter to Members - "In June 2013, an extensive 40 page document was
presented to St Kilda's Board of Directors outlining a complex and deliberate list management and recruiting strategy
aimed at delivering the Saints its next AFL Premiership. This plan was based on similar strategies developed during
my time at Port Adelaide from 1996-2004 and Hawthorn from 2005-2011."

Not quite claiming the flag there. It's what any normal person would put on their CV, no?

Thanks for that. It clearly demonstrates how a little tweaking of the facts can be a damning fallacy.

He's claiming responsibility for Port being 14th in 2000 and Hawthorn being 14th in 2005

[philtee]

The link to the retraction is on the right hand side of SEN home page, a short way down,
just under "Trade And Draft News" and above "Latest Audio".


And it takes you here - http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2 ... chen/62953

[saintbrat]

The link to the retraction is on the right hand side of SEN home page, a short way down,
just under "Trade And Draft News" and above "Latest Audio".


And it takes you here - http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2 ... chen/62953

thanks

see simple when given direction..- I was looking in ' news' for some reason

[saintly]

Getting this apology was driven by our president.

how do you know?


if so I am glad. its about time. it didn't get into the newspaper only online

[saintly]

did anyone find a report of the statement in the hard copy of either paper?

not in my editions( and time of statement not a reason)

and can't see on SEN home page http://www.sen.com.au/
and audio upload have dried up - no full program highlights at present.

no reports in hard copy at all. the heraldsun hadit online and that was all.

[saintly]

What everyone should be doing is to make the apology spread far and wde.

put it on twitter, put it on facebook.

send an email around to everybody that you know.