saintspremiers wrote:desertsaint wrote:For all our infamous reputation as the wooden spooner specialists we have 'won' just one! One solitary Woden spoon in the AFL. Carlton have won three.
I don't want another. 17th and I'll be happy. 18th? Rather peed off.
Love stats. Why bother with the other 92 years of VFL history!
As you were saying, we've won zero AFL flags whilst Carlton have won one.
Not sure if that is meant sarcastically it not, but I'll take it on face value.
Why would you include VFL history when talking about the current clubs?
Do we include a WAFL players stats when they debut in the AFL? Of course not. It's a different comp with different opposition and different conditions. They're still facts and history won't forget them, but they're irrelevant when talking about the player's achievements in the AFL.
Same with clubs.
It's like a junior footballer kicking 10 every week then we he gets in to the seniors can't use his size and intimidation anymore and can't get a kick. Or vice versa when a skilful young kid struggles as a junior then blooms as he matures.
Once you hit the seniors, your stats as a junior don't mean s***.
The VFL was a junior comp compared to the AFL where rich clubs could simply buy players and ultimately success, and they only competed against 11 other clubs.
The rules are different now. It's the big national comp now where you're up against 17 other clubs, and play by the same rules as everyone else (to a degree). You might have been a big shot under the old system, but that doesn't mean jack.
What you did as a kid, has no relevance to today.