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Re: Mitch Clark

Post: # 1497977Post evertonfc »

While AFL clubs are now generally risk averse, I believe in order to compete with GWS and GC in coming years - don't forget, they've got 25 gun prospects each and we've got about 10 - we're going to have to take some low-cost, high-reward risks.

Brisbane had Martin Pyke, Hawthorn had Brian Lake, Geelong had Cameron Mooney, Collingwood had Leigh Brown, Sydney have had more than I can count.

Good clubs can rehabilitate troubled players, but only if their culture is spot on.

I wouldn't give up too much for Brown, but I'd certainly give him a chance if the opportunity arose to grab him at the right price.


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evertonfc wrote:While AFL clubs are now generally risk averse, I believe in order to compete with GWS and GC in coming years - don't forget, they've got 25 gun prospects each and we've got about 10 - we're going to have to take some low-cost, high-reward risks.

Brisbane had Martin Pyke, Hawthorn had Brian Lake, Geelong had Cameron Mooney, Collingwood had Leigh Brown, Sydney have had more than I can count.

Good clubs can rehabilitate troubled players, but only if their culture is spot on.

I wouldn't give up too much for Brown, but I'd certainly give him a chance if the opportunity arose to grab him at the right price.
You mean Clarke?


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thejiggingsaint wrote:At this moment, with the current state of self-belief felt in the squad, I'm wondering just how good a move it would be for either party?
Exactly.

Playing for us could not be good for those with depression. Heck, it's hard enough for us supports who are fine!


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I reckon he won't be the same as the player we remember.

Since getting injured and assuming he'll be on an AFL list next year it'll be nearly 2 years since he played (injured rnd 4 2013).

I just don't think it will be that easy for him to return and play as well as he did before. That's where I see the risk.


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Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?


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magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?
well...at least two of those were a factor...


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Life Long Saint wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
mr six o'clock wrote:
WinnersOnly wrote:LLF I tend to agree morally that he should return to Melbourne - but what if he ends up at the SAINTS via the PSD? Which has been stated as a strong possibility this morning on SEN. I believe if he doesn't want return to Melbourne (what ever reason) he needs to come out and make a public statement as to the reasons why. I believe in 'footy karma' and if he ended up with us it would be a big slice of bad karma that would no doubt later come back to bite the club ! Please tread very carefully Sainters....
Agree
We have recruited so many mature age players in the last ten years who have been a complete waste of money , would he be any different ?
Have you seen him play?
I have and I've seen him tear us apart when he played for the Lions.
Would want to absolutely ensure he's got his issues well and truly under control and that his body is 100% right to go.

Even with all that it's a massive gamble.

More massive than Siposs, Simpkin, Minchington. Yes he will cost a lot more but we must pay 95% of the SC and at the moemnt I cant possibly see how we do that without getting a bigger name in. Just grab the guy if he is interested and mentally oK.


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Post: # 1498007Post Sainterman »

Is he interested? Has he shown any interest in St Kilda at all?

Did something happen with Melbourne that means he doesn't want to return there should he come back?

Sorry, just a little confused as to why we are entertaining the idea of him coming to St Kilda...


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Sainterman wrote:Is he interested? Has he shown any interest in St Kilda at all?

Did something happen with Melbourne that means he doesn't want to return there should he come back?

Sorry, just a little confused as to why we are entertaining the idea of him coming to St Kilda...
Well we have the first pick in the PSD, he lives in Melbourne, we can offer him good money and a good playing group to play together with. He won't be the sole forward getting the first defender, and we have a respected coach.

I don't know why he would not repay Melbourne though - I'd like to know more because from the outside looking in it seems like the right thing to do would be to play for them.


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FQF wrote:
Sainterman wrote:Is he interested? Has he shown any interest in St Kilda at all?

Did something happen with Melbourne that means he doesn't want to return there should he come back?

Sorry, just a little confused as to why we are entertaining the idea of him coming to St Kilda...
Well we have the first pick in the PSD, he lives in Melbourne, we can offer him good money and a good playing group to play together with. He won't be the sole forward getting the first defender, and we have a respected coach.

I don't know why he would not repay Melbourne though - I'd like to know more because from the outside looking in it seems like the right thing to do would be to play for them.

Have people actually thought that they may not want him anymore. Im not saying i know or dont know but that maybe the case.


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plugger66 wrote:
FQF wrote:
Sainterman wrote:Is he interested? Has he shown any interest in St Kilda at all?

Did something happen with Melbourne that means he doesn't want to return there should he come back?

Sorry, just a little confused as to why we are entertaining the idea of him coming to St Kilda...
Well we have the first pick in the PSD, he lives in Melbourne, we can offer him good money and a good playing group to play together with. He won't be the sole forward getting the first defender, and we have a respected coach.

I don't know why he would not repay Melbourne though - I'd like to know more because from the outside looking in it seems like the right thing to do would be to play for them.

Have people actually thought that they may not want him anymore. Im not saying i know or dont know but that maybe the case.
Doesn't seem that way:

"This decision by Mitch to investigate the potential of returning to play AFL is something we would expect Mitch to discuss with us," Demons football manager Josh Mahoney told the AFL website.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... 0dkpu.html


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Of course we should get him


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#gosaintas wrote:Of course we should get him
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magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?

Interesting.


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FQF wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
FQF wrote:
Sainterman wrote:Is he interested? Has he shown any interest in St Kilda at all?

Did something happen with Melbourne that means he doesn't want to return there should he come back?

Sorry, just a little confused as to why we are entertaining the idea of him coming to St Kilda...
Well we have the first pick in the PSD, he lives in Melbourne, we can offer him good money and a good playing group to play together with. He won't be the sole forward getting the first defender, and we have a respected coach.

I don't know why he would not repay Melbourne though - I'd like to know more because from the outside looking in it seems like the right thing to do would be to play for them.

Have people actually thought that they may not want him anymore. Im not saying i know or dont know but that maybe the case.
Doesn't seem that way:

"This decision by Mitch to investigate the potential of returning to play AFL is something we would expect Mitch to discuss with us," Demons football manager Josh Mahoney told the AFL website.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... 0dkpu.html
Despite the protests, I think losing Mitch Clark for nothing (as a high profile recruit) would be pretty high on Melbourne's "Reasons We Should Get A Priority Pick" list they submit to the AFL.

Not sure which one they'd prefer more, Clark back as the player he showed he could be, or a pretty highly rated youngster with a fresh start?? The answer to this question may determine how far the Dees push it with retaining Clark on their list.


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SENsaintsational wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?

Interesting.
This is not the first I've heard of that possibility.

And the fact that all three of the above could be interrelated.


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Sobraz wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?

Interesting.
This is not the first I've heard of that possibility.

And the fact that all three of the above could be interrelated.

I heard someone saying it was gambling addiction. More alluding to it like it was the real issue.


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I think there's something more than meets the eye.


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I think there's something more than meets the eye.


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magnifisaint wrote:I think there's something more than meets the eye.

Or the poor guy could have had bad depression. I usually choose to beleive the good in people so i will go with that based on a Ormond boy at melbourne telling my mate that is fact in his opinion.


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plugger66 wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:I think there's something more than meets the eye.

Or the poor guy could have had bad depression. I usually choose to beleive the good in people so i will go with that based on a Ormond boy at melbourne telling my mate that is fact in his opinion.
Maybe you're right.


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Sobraz wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?

Interesting.
This is not the first I've heard of that possibility.

And the fact that all three of the above could be interrelated.
If it was the latter, I would doubt that Dees would have paid him out in full like they did.

Indeed I would be guessing that drugs would be an "out-clause" for clubs in the contracts.


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plugger66 wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:I think there's something more than meets the eye.

Or the poor guy could have had bad depression. I usually choose to beleive the good in people so i will go with that based on a Ormond boy at melbourne telling my mate that is fact in his opinion.
Agreed.

He does have the right to choose where he takes his talents (ala LeBron) however the fact that he came from the Dees and the Dees are terrible, it adds spice to the story.

In the end, his mental illness needs to be taken at face value. I hope he is ok and football is part of his longer-term rehab.


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saintsRrising wrote:
Sobraz wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:Did Mitch Clark retire due to injuries, depression or substance abuse?

Interesting.
This is not the first I've heard of that possibility.

And the fact that all three of the above could be interrelated.
If it was the latter, I would doubt that Dees would have paid him out in full like they did.

Indeed I would be guessing that drugs would be an "out-clause" for clubs in the contracts.
Did they pay him out in full? Surely not.


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Reportedly looking like he'll be at Hawthorn. Surprise surprise.


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