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Jake wore number 22 at the bumbers. Not sure he'd want that number even if 22 was available at the Saints
If its' official he's a Saint it doesn't matter what number he wears as long as he stays fit and helps us climb back up the ladder but I reckon number 23 would look good on his back. Sh1t!!! Hope I don't jinx the deal
saintbob wrote:We need this signed ASAP in the morning, so we can tempt Freo with pick 14 for Weller.
Freo could then try and use 14 to get the McCarthy deal over the line.
If Freo are desparate on getting pick 14 to use on McCarthy, maybe we could ask for Weller and some stake knives. Either a later pick to ensure we have enough points for Rice or a player such as Connor Blakely (no hope), Crozier or Taberner.
samuraisaint wrote:I wasn't sold on the idea of recruiting Jake, but the idea is growing on me. It was pretty obvious from our last six rounds last season that we were still miles off the pace, despite our progress in 2015.
Two fifteen goal plus losses, an eleven goal loss to Port, and two six goal losses to sides who didn't play at their best when we played them. The only side we got near was Geelong, who we still couldn't beat, and who have, since we drew with them, added the best midfielder in the AFL, plus a good swingman, a ruckman, and another Selwood.
Our problem is our midfield, but our defence badly requires height, and Carlisle gives us that.
The WADA investigation is still a major worry though, although if it wasn't, we wouldn't have got him anyway.
Hope we land Freeman for a bit of outside run, get Rice as a Father-Son, and nab Lachie Weller for pick #14.
Freeman is ours, we've got Carlisle, we'll get Rice and Lachie would be the cream on the cake if we really want him!
I think it unfair if the ladies get cream on the cake but the guys get nothing.
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If we don't call Bailey Rice at 45 we leave him exposed between picks 46 and 51 with not enough 2015 points.
We need backup of another 75 points.
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I would not stress too much. He is tipped to go 20-40...and we would probably be happy to use 45 on him, otherwise we would not have chased him.
He may be a 20 to 40 pick but we have not seen a track record of clubs calling a player in this environment knowing that they will be trumped by the club holding the discount.
Father-son and academy players may slip significantly before someone calls them.
The club with the discount won't move until another club makes the call.
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saintspremiers wrote:I just hope we do a FULL and thorough check on Carlisle unlike whoa we did with Lovett.
Richo wasa coach at EFC with Carlisle...and one of our othe coaches coached him in the U18s and so we have two of our coaches with first hand knowledge of Carlisle.
That's handy. The info I heard may be a new development - not too sure. Anyway can't go into on here but was from a good source and I'd hope our club is aware of it (if true)
I like u SP but what a pointless post... U have news that may not be true but u cant share.
Without tracking all the posts here I offer something mentioned on Facebook by Essendon supporters. Apparently Carlisle and Brendan Goddard had a punch up at training earlier in the year. I know nothing more on this. Not sure if this is the reference avoided earlier by SP.
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
saintbob wrote:If that doesn't happen maybe Rioli should be our target!!!
Nick Winmar was no Nicky Winmar.
Young Rioli may not be a Cyril.
I hope we pick players on their merits and not their names.
But this Rioli has pace which is a quality we need.
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You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Good deal. I am happy with that. Essentially we get Carlisle for pick 14.
We lock in Rice (45+63) and we get two live picks in the draft - 14 + 44
Sinclair will be one of those unless we delist a couple more and get an even later pick which is the way to go IMO.
Most likely will use 68 to upgrade Sinclair
We don't need to use picks with value to upgrade rookies.
Their names will no longer be called.
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Read between the lines. Again the club and Carlisle have come out and said I WANT TO PLAY FOR ST.KILDA.
If Essendon don't accept the deal he puts a price on his head and walks to us. Doesn't take calls from anyone and says he only wants the Saints ala Luke Ball.
Before that happens though Essendon accept our trade because they won't want to lose him for nothing.
We have all the power
We don't have the power unless Essendon believe he will go into the PSD.
It's a game of bluff because if they think he will go in the PSD they will accept our offer -if not they will deal with Hawthorn.[/quote
Could always exchange pick 5 with Hawks proposal + a long range pick. Then see if Hawks trade this to Essendum. I would doubt they would. We would still have 2 first round picks. One of those for Freeman, the other for any other outcast who may not get to their club of their choice (eg Aish)
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
saintbob wrote:If that doesn't happen maybe Rioli should be our target!!!
Nick Winmar was no Nicky Winmar.
Young Rioli may not be a Cyril.
I hope we pick players on their merits and not their names.
But this Rioli has pace which is a quality we need.
and the Hawks would hate to lose this one.
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
saintbob wrote:We need this signed ASAP in the morning, so we can tempt Freo with pick 14 for Weller.
Freo could then try and use 14 to get the McCarthy deal over the line.
If Freo are desparate on getting pick 14 to use on McCarthy, maybe we could ask for Weller and some stake knives. Either a later pick to ensure we have enough points for Rice or a player such as Connor Blakely (no hope), Crozier or Taberner.
Brady Grey would be a good get, if they offer up steak knives.
Not sure if I am happy or disappointed to read that.
I think it's been a brilliant trading by the club to bring in a top ten quick midfielder and a proven key defender and still have a first round pick left.
Not sure if I am happy or disappointed to read that.
I think it's been a brilliant trading by the club to bring in a top ten quick midfielder and a proven key defender and still have a first round pick left.
If Carlislle works out and pick 5 doesn't turn into another dangerfield.n Big if on Carlisle imho.
Deal not as good as was mooted last night. We didn't end up getting pick 44 back , only got 14.
So 5 & 24 out , Carlisle and 14 in.
Equivalent of about pick 10 or 11 overall on the points system
robbie muir wrote:Deal not as good as was mooted last night. We didn't end up getting pick 44 back , only got 14.
So 5 & 24 out , Carlisle and 14 in.
Equivalent of about pick 10 or 11 overall on the points system
saintspremiers wrote:I just hope we do a FULL and thorough check on Carlisle unlike whoa we did with Lovett.
Richo wasa coach at EFC with Carlisle...and one of our othe coaches coached him in the U18s and so we have two of our coaches with first hand knowledge of Carlisle.
That's handy. The info I heard may be a new development - not too sure. Anyway can't go into on here but was from a good source and I'd hope our club is aware of it (if true)
I like u SP but what a pointless post... U have news that may not be true but u cant share.
Without tracking all the posts here I offer something mentioned on Facebook by Essendon supporters. Apparently Carlisle and Brendan Goddard had a punch up at training earlier in the year. I know nothing more on this. Not sure if this is the reference avoided earlier by SP.
I already posted that. Confirmed by Robbo and Ando in the g=hun a couple of days ago.
Looks like the Saints caved a bit this morning and coughed up 44. Embarassing if so as on the Saints website they currently have:
The Saints will acquire the recently turned 24-year-old Carlisle and the Swans’ pick No.14 in exchange for pick No.5 (to Essendon) and No.24 (to Sydney). The deal also involves an exchange of picks and players between Essendon and Sydney.
St Kilda now has picks 14, 44, 45, 68, 81, 99 and 117 in November's National Draft.
But other sites not showing the exchange between Dons and Swans...and no 44 for the Saints. Something not right.
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