Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1078 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664032Post Impatient Sainter »

We have one of the smallest memberships in Victoria and the least revenue streams. We are the perennial wooden spooners winning one at a rate of approx every 6 years with 1 premeirship in our 140 year history. How can the club expect to maintain Saints supporters thru the gates with a record like that.

I dont live in Mebourne now but when I did during the early 80's it was some of the darkest days in football supporting our club.

I think its time the club started rewarding the members/supporters with on field results if they want there loyalties to return.


User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664037Post dragit »

Melbourne has been the fastest growing capital for a while, we should be indoctrinating these new residents wherever possible… A few solid families now could produce a lot of future saint nutjobs like us down the track.


Legendary
Club Player
Posts: 1900
Joined: Mon 04 Aug 2008 11:35am
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 56 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664166Post Legendary »

I attend every game that commences at 2.10pm on a Saturday.


The_Merchant
Club Player
Posts: 360
Joined: Mon 30 Oct 2006 5:04pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664183Post The_Merchant »

I went to the saints game, and the tigers v dees. Having two games scheduled at the same time in Melbourne doesn't help (Hawks at the g started an hour after us). Plenty of neutral supporters at the g on Anzac eve, where as we would have stuff all neutrals on a Sunday arvo in the middle of a pseudo long weekend.


If at first you don't succeed, sky diving is not for you.
User avatar
evertonfc
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7262
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 9:11pm
Location: 'Quietly Confident' County
Has thanked: 115 times
Been thanked: 267 times
Contact:

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664255Post evertonfc »

Honestly, we have always had a terrible showing in Melbourne at away games. And we're starting to dip badly with home games.

I've noticed a lot of people who consider themselves genuine, super-passionate fans don't really turn up week in, week out. And I hate to say it, but we haven't done enough as a club to make people want to get to the games.

I believe in the old adage that "a crowd attracts a crowd" and this is a problem for us. On top of that, the atmosphere is too often lacking; nobody wants to generate any noise.

We haven't created a communal, energetic place for Sainters to converge and swell the passion. The ripple-down effect of this is considerable.

When I go to football matches in Europe, for example, there's countless intimate bars and street stalls around/outside the ground. The noise, the vibe and the whole experience of people congregating outside is magnetic. We used to have elements of that (especially the walk from the station) at Moorabbin, but at Docklands, there is nothing to support it.

These days it's a fairly soulless experience. You turn up to a generic venue that isn't exclusively yours; 18 teams play risk-averse football, it's expensive and you don't get much access to players. And who has five hours of their weekend to give away any more?

The dynamics of spectator sport have changed, dramatically, and we should be a club that's leading the charge to get our fans turning up every single week we play in Melbourne.

Basically, the next time we are "up", we need to really put some solid bricks in the wall with regard to keeping the fan base for the long term. We totally gave away the progress we made in 2003-6 and 2008-11; I'd argue we hardly built the fan base at all. That was largely due to terrible administration, but I hope we can be better this time around.


Clueless and mediocre petty tyrant.

Image
Leo.J
SS Life Member
Posts: 3122
Joined: Sun 27 Mar 2005 8:29pm
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 70 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664284Post Leo.J »

Legendary wrote:I attend every game that commences at 2.10pm on a Saturday.
Same here...

I dont go often anymore.

Factors including, kids, junior footy, crap draw, long commute, don't like docklands, a large TV and beer on tap at home.


User avatar
Spinner
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8502
Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
Location: Victoria
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664292Post Spinner »

Leo.J wrote:
Legendary wrote:I attend every game that commences at 2.10pm on a Saturday.
Same here...

I dont go often anymore.

Factors including, kids, junior footy, crap draw, long commute, don't like docklands, a large TV and beer on tap at home.

Any factors left towards going?


User avatar
Spinner
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8502
Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
Location: Victoria
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664294Post Spinner »

Legendary wrote:I attend every game that commences at 2.10pm on a Saturday.


Why is this time slot special?


User avatar
The Fireman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13311
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
Has thanked: 669 times
Been thanked: 1957 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664304Post The Fireman »

I'm the softest..I moved interstate


Vazelos
Club Player
Posts: 1265
Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 319 times

Re: Have Our Supporters Become the Softest in Victoria?

Post: # 1664317Post Vazelos »

evertonfc wrote:Honestly, we have always had a terrible showing in Melbourne at away games. And we're starting to dip badly with home games.

I've noticed a lot of people who consider themselves genuine, super-passionate fans don't really turn up week in, week out. And I hate to say it, but we haven't done enough as a club to make people want to get to the games.

I believe in the old adage that "a crowd attracts a crowd" and this is a problem for us. On top of that, the atmosphere is too often lacking; nobody wants to generate any noise.

We haven't created a communal, energetic place for Sainters to converge and swell the passion. The ripple-down effect of this is considerable.

When I go to football matches in Europe, for example, there's countless intimate bars and street stalls around/outside the ground. The noise, the vibe and the whole experience of people congregating outside is magnetic. We used to have elements of that (especially the walk from the station) at Moorabbin, but at Docklands, there is nothing to support it.

These days it's a fairly soulless experience. You turn up to a generic venue that isn't exclusively yours; 18 teams play risk-averse football, it's expensive and you don't get much access to players. And who has five hours of their weekend to give away any more?

The dynamics of spectator sport have changed, dramatically, and we should be a club that's leading the charge to get our fans turning up every single week we play in Melbourne.

Basically, the next time we are "up", we need to really put some solid bricks in the wall with regard to keeping the fan base for the long term. We totally gave away the progress we made in 2003-6 and 2008-11; I'd argue we hardly built the fan base at all. That was largely due to terrible administration, but I hope we can be better this time around.
Excellent post outlining the facts of today but I still go and I buy 3 memberships with seats to support the club. Having worked in sport I understand how important it is to buy memberships and support the club. Nothing beats the Moorabbin days but that's like another time now.


Post Reply