I get that but we cant measure that so who knows?Johnny Member wrote:I think the point is that the difference between the say, top 10 coaches in the comp is minimal. Therefore, it's a bit of a nil all draw when it all comes down to it.Teflon wrote:I think you're stating the obvious.samoht wrote:Joffa Burns wrote ...
"All the planets need to align for success, but coaching is an integral link in the chain"
Indeed they do! But once the planets align - you just need an AFL coach... doesn't need to be anyone in particular.
Re: the coach being an integral link - which coach are you referring to - the 19-0 coach or the 0-10 coach?
Can't you see it's the circumstances that are the major determinant here - not a particular coach with supposed superpowers.
I meant Knobel --- not Cook -- in the 2004 final vs port Adelaide - Knobel had 22 hitouts and zero possession around the ground! Zilch, not one! One of his hitouts went straight to Wanganeen who kicked the winning goal.
What about Hamill being injured and missing the game?
Goddard was injured very early in that match.
That's what you call bad luck - and yet despite all this we only fell short by 1 goal to the side that went on to smash the Lions and win the flag.
That year we were the strongest team - We deserved to win the premiership under GT (or under any other AFL coach who happened to be coaching us).
Adverse circumstances stood between us and the flag. Our planets refused to lign up - and it wasn't the coach's fault!
No one suggests the coach plays the game or doesn't need the cattle but that doesn't mean a great coach doesn't and can't extract more from a top list or even a mediocre one above and beyond a lessor coach
No different to great managers
Coaches after all manage people...... I've worked for great managers and morons.... there's a difference
Is the influence factor 90-10 in favour of playing group? Probably, but I'd argue that the ability to extract consistently great performances from your team is a vital 10%. Great coaches do that.
is Alan Richardson as good as Luke Beverage? who knows....so we are back to lists vs lists