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Good grief. So if we had picked Petracca and hence had yet another bull midfielder with not much pace, and certainly not a gun, we would be in Melbourne's position?
At least with Petracca we would have had a good player with a future, against a player, who due to his pre existing condition should have never had been picked and is more than likely never going to play again. In fact for his own well being shouldn't play again.
Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:50pm
At least with Petracca we would have had a good player with a future, against a player, who due to his pre existing condition should have never had been picked and is more than likely never going to play again. In fact for his own well being shouldn't play again.
Fair comment and for those that bag Petracca here, keep your heads in the sand. Petracca has a lot more upside than McCartin and he will improve. He has plenty of skill, is a strong bodied, powerful midfielder that can play forward and may well reach star status. McCartin won't.
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:59pm
Because Petracca dominated today. 20 disposals and a goal for a team that won by 100+
Not what I am saying t all.
Do you actually know what a sliding door moment is?
You don't appear to.
So why use today’s game as evidence?
I picked two points in time to show that once we were both highly regarded young teams and to show that we have gone backwards while the dees are playing at the top of their game.
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:59pm
Because Petracca dominated today. 20 disposals and a goal for a team that won by 100+
Not what I am saying t all.
Do you actually know what a sliding door moment is?
You don't appear to.
So why use today’s game as evidence?
I picked two points in time to show that once we were both highly regarded young teams with young talent and a bright future and to show that we have gone backwards while the dees are playing at the top of their game.
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:59pm
Because Petracca dominated today. 20 disposals and a goal for a team that won by 100+
Not what I am saying t all.
Do you actually know what a sliding door moment is?
You don't appear to.
So why use today’s game as evidence?
I picked two points in time to show that once we were both highly regarded young teams and to show that we have gone backwards while the dees are playing at the top of their game.
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What has the first point got to do with the second point?
Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:50pm
At least with Petracca we would have had a good player with a future, against a player, who due to his pre existing condition should have never had been picked and is more than likely never going to play again. In fact for his own well being shouldn't play again.
Fair comment and for those that bag Petracca here, keep your heads in the sand. Petracca has a lot more upside than McCartin and he will improve. He has plenty of skill, is a strong bodied, powerful midfielder that can play forward and may well reach star status. McCartin won't.
Can you foretell the future? Who wins the flag this year? Might make some money.
kosifantutti wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:59pm
Because Petracca dominated today. 20 disposals and a goal for a team that won by 100+
Not what I am saying t all.
Do you actually know what a sliding door moment is?
You don't appear to.
So why use today’s game as evidence?
I picked two points in time to show that once we were both highly regarded young teams with young talent and a bright future and to show that we have gone backwards while the dees are playing at the top of their game.
Melbourne have been stockpiling top ten draft picks since 2007. We have only had that luxury since 2013. That is some head start for the Dees and they received priority picks during that time as well.
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Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 5:50pm
At least with Petracca we would have had a good player with a future, against a player, who due to his pre existing condition should have never had been picked and is more than likely never going to play again. In fact for his own well being shouldn't play again.
Fair comment and for those that bag Petracca here, keep your heads in the sand. Petracca has a lot more upside than McCartin and he will improve. He has plenty of skill, is a strong bodied, powerful midfielder that can play forward and may well reach star status. McCartin won't.
Can you foretell the future? Who wins the flag this year? Might make some money.
I go by probability. The chances of McCartin becoming a star (let alone having a career with all his health and concussion issues) are very low, That I know for sure.
I think its a fair comment.
It was a mistake at the time and we have lacked class in the midfield.
Certainly part of the reason two even sides have gone opposite directions.
We just have to hope Coffield and Clark develop along with Acres, Dunstan, Gresham, Billings et al and pick 1-3 this year
fugazi wrote: ↑Sun 20 May 2018 7:05pm
I think its a fair comment.
It was a mistake at the time and we have lacked class in the midfield.
Certainly part of the reason two even sides have gone opposite directions.
We just have to hope Coffield and Clark develop along with Acres, Dunstan, Gresham, Billings et al and pick 1-3 this year
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I agree. Paddy was not needed, we had a reasonable forward line with Bruce & Membrey the keys.
The way footy is being played now, I reckon Acres switching between forward and mid (ala Danger) should have sufficed. So yeah, sliding doors sounds right.
Another thing, having to try and play Paddy as much as possible over the last two seasons when it was obviously not working, has had a huge negative effect on our structure. Don't get me wrong, I have been a fan of Paddy, but you just cannot sacrifice the whole team in trying to play one person into form. His first three years should have been at Sandy
The question is would we be better off with Stanley & Petracca or Paddy & Goddard.
If we were going for Petracca we probably would not have let Stanley go as he provided a back up ruck and forward option.
I don't see Petracca and Stanley as great players, particularly Stanley, but hard to argue we would not be a better team right now with Stanley playing the Marshall role and Pettracca half forward/ midfield rotation instead of five or six guys getting a game now.
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Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 21 May 2018 2:25pm
The question is would we be better off with Stanley & Petracca or Paddy & Goddard.
If we were going for Petracca we probably would not have let Stanley go as he provided a back up ruck and forward option.
I don't see Petracca and Stanley as great players, particularly Stanley, but hard to argue we would not be a better team right now with Stanley playing the Marshall role and Pettracca half forward/ midfield rotation instead of five or six guys getting a game now.
Stanley wasn't getting much love out of the SEN crew this morning, so I reckon the judge is still out on that one. For mine, I reckon it's too late now for Paddy, he could have been ok but too many head knocks now, so even if he just played at Sandy, he's stuffed if he gets another couple.
See if Geelong will swap him back...Paddy for Stanley
