SAY WHAT? Jack Steven to leave the Saints?!!

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Post: # 1755961Post stkfc1 »

I love Stuv like everyone here BUT the reality is he's either not going to be around or at his best at our next run at finals. We're 3 to 5 years away and unfortunately the thing that Stuv has is elite break away speed and that can decline very quickly. We missed out trading Armo to the Tigers when he had currency. We need to be ruthless now if we are going to fast track our rebuild and if the offer is overs we would be crazy not to take it. Id hate to see him leave but sentiment has to take a back seat now. We have have to be brave.


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Post: # 1755962Post desertsaint »

don't want us to trade him, but doubt he is worth more than around the pick 12 the Cats will have.
deserves some success though and could have had it if ross lyon had a bit of risk taker about him.


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Post: # 1755963Post supersaints2 »

My understanding is that Geelong connot trade out Their first round pick in 2019 and 2020... because they have traded out too many ... I read it somewhere but can't remember where I read it... last year
So forget about the first rounders you all want

I'd like to keep Steve


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Post: # 1755964Post st.byron »

desertsaint wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 10:17pm don't want us to trade him, but doubt he is worth more than around the pick 12 the Cats will have.
deserves some success though and could have had it if ross lyon had a bit of risk taker about him.
Article in The Age suggests at least a top ten pick for him. IMO picks 12 and 17 as hypothesised would not be enough.


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Post: # 1755974Post skeptic »

bigred wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 9:30pm Two first rounders. One of those around 5 and the other mid teens should get it done.
That and they have to take Longer off our hands


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Post: # 1755975Post Wayne42 »

There's no way Geelong would handover 2 x first round draft picks for Jack, it'll be a negotiated draft pick and Menzel as the steak knives. :shock: :shock:

Let's hope we keep Jack.


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Post: # 1755977Post Scollop »

Without Stuv there'd be at least 10 games we would have lost over the last 3 years.

Heart and soul player. He provides the inspiration through his feats and through his actions and he is definitely a match winner that we cannot afford to lose in my opinion, especially if they don't give us a player who can come in and replace him in the middle.....Parfitt is a good mate of Ben Long's isn't he?

Everyone has a price and we seriously need to smash the opposition if they target any of our players. Get a first rounder off them and get Parfitt


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What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
If he leaves, there goes a genuine heart and soul player of the club. We cannot afford to lose him, both symbolically and actually.
Tragic.


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Post: # 1755986Post saintsRrising »

miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.

What will be more upsetting is the reason why he wants out will still be at the club.


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Post: # 1755987Post bigred »

Because the club is s*** mate.

It really is.


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Post: # 1755990Post bigcarl »

Let’s offload our sole A-grader to get Menzel :idea:

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Post: # 1755992Post Joffa Burns »

st.byron wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 10:50pm
desertsaint wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 10:17pm don't want us to trade him, but doubt he is worth more than around the pick 12 the Cats will have.
deserves some success though and could have had it if ross lyon had a bit of risk taker about him.
Article in The Age suggests at least a top ten pick for him. IMO picks 12 and 17 as hypothesised would not be enough.
Would not like to see him leave, but #12 & #17 would be a great return at 28 years old.

What did they give up for Dangerfield?

We hypothesize Sheil will take a first round pick on another thread and are kidding ourselves if we think Steven is worth more than Sheil.


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Post: # 1755994Post rodgerfox »

Chris Scott dismissed it last night.

Also, given Brian Cook's media rounds yesterday, I'd be shocked if they brought in Dalhaus and Steven at 28yo. It would fly directly in the face of what they seem to have finally conceded in regards to their list management.


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Post: # 1755995Post rodgerfox »

stkfc1 wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 10:06pm I love Stuv like everyone here BUT the reality is he's either not going to be around or at his best at our next run at finals.
I disagree.

We'll be playing finals in 2 years.

Steven will be a huge part of it.


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rodgerfox wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 7:41am
stkfc1 wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 10:06pm I love Stuv like everyone here BUT the reality is he's either not going to be around or at his best at our next run at finals.
I disagree.

We'll be playing finals in 2 years.

Steven will be a huge part of it.
If the club doesn’t implode first.

Richo needs to go as a matter of priority.


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Post: # 1756001Post Hemi Baxter »

Out : Steven
In: Hannebery

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Post: # 1756002Post CURLY »

miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
If he leaves, there goes a genuine heart and soul player of the club. We cannot afford to lose him, both symbolically and actually.
Tragic.
He said he has no desire to move stop making up lies.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 8:57am
miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
If he leaves, there goes a genuine heart and soul player of the club. We cannot afford to lose him, both symbolically and actually.
Tragic.
He said he has no desire to move stop making up lies.
Source please, Curly?


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Post: # 1756004Post freely »

Maybe all this'll give him the push to take more leadership - not just show endeavour but demand it from teammates.


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Post: # 1756005Post CURLY »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 8:59am
CURLY wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 8:57am
miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
If he leaves, there goes a genuine heart and soul player of the club. We cannot afford to lose him, both symbolically and actually.
Tragic.
He said he has no desire to move stop making up lies.
Source please, Curly?
The SEN report basically tells you all you need.


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Post: # 1756007Post ausfatcat »

miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
Where does it say he wants out?


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Post: # 1756008Post CURLY »

ausfatcat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 9:16am
miskycat wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 1:08am What's really upsetting is that he wants a trade.
Where does it say he wants out?

It doesnt


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Post: # 1756010Post Sainter_Dad »

st.byron wrote: Mon 10 Sep 2018 9:59pm When does he become a free agent?

At the right price I’d do it. Have to involve first round pick/s
Was drafted in 2017 - so technically is an unrestricted free agent now - but for his contract. He signed a Long Term Contract in 2015(?) for 5 years to show faith in the club - maybe that faith is wavering though.


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Post: # 1756011Post dragit »

I want out.


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Post: # 1756013Post DJ Higgins »

It's all rumour and not a realistic one at that. He is contracted and we would want more than what another club is willing to pay. You can't blame him as he knows he time to play finals is slipping away and be real we are a few years off so he may be to old when we seriously challenge again. But he will stay which is great for us


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