The Conundrum of the Hannebery Trade

[prwilkinson]

A 5 year deal to a f**king waddler who can barely kick it over 35m anymore. Are they giving Ryan Gamble (Menzel) 4 years on 900k as well?

[bigred]

Apparently he has asked for a trade.

Could be a massive bust.

Could be a massive win if he can get his body right.

Could be.

[Saintmatt]

Sam McLure reporting on SEN this morning that he believes Hanneberry will get done for either (1) our 2019 2nd round pick or (2) our 2018 priority pick - if we are granted one.

I'd be ok with us effectively taking over his existing contract at Sydney but a straight 5 year deal? God no. Maybe the compromise will be a 3 year deal on the same money but with triggers for 4th and 5th years.

[Joffa Burns]

I read in the herald scum this morning that Jake Lloyd hasn't agreed to a deal with Swans and at some point GC had interest.

Personally I'd have Lloyd over Hannebery right now given Lloyds age and fitness.

Yes he is another small backman but he is a very good player and distributor off half back.
I have little confidence in Rice & McKenzie in the long term as AFL players, Geary by foot and White seems to be out of favor with the current coach.

Slot Lloyd in down back and move Geary to a defensive forward, run with defensive mid style, or lock down defender role when necessary. I don't geary him being the play maker out of defence.

The other guy I'd like to see down back is Sinclair.
Sinclair does not have the grunt to win his own ball in the midfield or the aggression or will to apply pressure as a forward.

What Sinclair has is poise with ball in hand and nice foot skills.
Using a combination of Lloyd, Sinclair, Coffield, Roberton and Webster out of the back line gives some good ball users out of the back line and negates the turn overs of Geary & McKenzie and negates and removes the Rice who is a good neat player who unfortunately lacks pace and athleticism.

Also thrown Bruce as an option down back as he has the size, mobility & athleticism required to go with key forwards, something the likes of Paddy & Battle lack.

Backs
Webster - (Austin/Bruce) - (Coffield/Sinclair)
Roberton - Carslile - Lloyd

[Ghost Like]

Sam McLure reporting on SEN this morning that he believes Hanneberry will get done for either (1) our 2019 2nd round pick or (2) our 2018 priority pick - if we are granted one.

I'd be ok with us effectively taking over his existing contract at Sydney but a straight 5 year deal? God no. Maybe the compromise will be a 3 year deal on the same money but with triggers for 4th and 5th years.

If it was our 2019 2nd round pick I'd warm to it. We can always find a way back into the 2nd round without selling the farm.

Keep our 1st rounders and any priority picks, they are the players, if chosen correctly, we can build our future around and then selectively pick the right FA's or RFA's on a needs basis.

Whilst we are not a "destination club" at present, that can change in 2 or 3 years. I do not want us to be a retirement village for once weres. I saw enough of that when we were once Carlton's Retirement Village...never again!!!

[Joffa Burns]

Sam McLure reporting on SEN this morning that he believes Hanneberry will get done for either (1) our 2019 2nd round pick or (2) our 2018 priority pick - if we are granted one.

I'd be ok with us effectively taking over his existing contract at Sydney but a straight 5 year deal? God no. Maybe the compromise will be a 3 year deal on the same money but with triggers for 4th and 5th years.

If it was our 2019 2nd round pick I'd warm to it. We can always find a way back into the 2nd round without selling the farm.

Keep our 1st rounders and any priority picks, they are the players, if chosen correctly, we can build our future around and then selectively pick the right FA's or RFA's on a needs basis.

Whilst we are not a "destination club" at present, that can change in 2 or 3 years. I do not want us to be a retirement village for once weres. I saw enough of that when we were once Carlton's Retirement Village...never again!!!

Second rounder for a guy on a massive contract who looks cooked is overs for mine.
Take his full contract to give Swans space but exchange the order of a couple of later picks and that is it.

There is a lot to lose here and very little upside, even if he gets his body right he'll be gone before saints play finals again.

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

[prwilkinson]

I wonder if we can also get Craig O’Brien back as part of the deal.

[dragit]

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

Bingo, this is back to the bad old days… STK FC - a place to retire on big coin.

Red flags in every direction here… we are targeting a bloke with chronic injuries and a horrible form line because he is mates with Lethers?

If we are going to throw huge money on a risky bet, then we should roll the dice on a young player who we think may grow into a superstar > Setterfield, Taranto, Florent, Cerra, Berry… godfather one of these blokes, not some washed up xavier old boy.

[Ghost Like]

Sam McLure reporting on SEN this morning that he believes Hanneberry will get done for either (1) our 2019 2nd round pick or (2) our 2018 priority pick - if we are granted one.

I'd be ok with us effectively taking over his existing contract at Sydney but a straight 5 year deal? God no. Maybe the compromise will be a 3 year deal on the same money but with triggers for 4th and 5th years.

If it was our 2019 2nd round pick I'd warm to it. We can always find a way back into the 2nd round without selling the farm.

Keep our 1st rounders and any priority picks, they are the players, if chosen correctly, we can build our future around and then selectively pick the right FA's or RFA's on a needs basis.

Whilst we are not a "destination club" at present, that can change in 2 or 3 years. I do not want us to be a retirement village for once weres. I saw enough of that when we were once Carlton's Retirement Village...never again!!!

Second rounder for a guy on a massive contract who looks cooked is overs for mine.
Take his full contract to give Swans space but exchange the order of a couple of later picks and that is it.

There is a lot to lose here and very little upside, even if he gets his body right he'll be gone before saints play finals again.

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

I understand that Joffa and like your trading idea a lot more. If we got him for that, fantastic.

I don't so much see his value as the Hannerbury of 2014 but his IP coming from a very well run club, his experience and leadership qualities. All that is invaluable to the demographics of our current list.

Exchange of round 2 trades, heavily front end it so we can load up for 2020, 2021 and 2022.

[prwilkinson]

This trade just reeks of a player that’s past it making sure he gets his pay day before being spat out of the AFL system. Pretty sad if this is the only type of deal St Kilda can get done.

[saintbob]

I honestly can’t believe Richardson and Lethlean are so keen on this bloke because if it backfires and that’s a distinct possibility, it will completely f*** their careers not to mention the club!!!

[repta]

Hannebery to take Freemans space on the list --- The "If we can get him right" medical spot . Because our resources are so far superior to the Swans ones (or Collingwood for Freeman).

Better yet lets give up our first round or second round (eg priority pick) in the deepest draft in a generation.

Awesome deal.

He wants out, Sydney will want him out. 4 round at best. Take it or leave it. We are doing Sydney a favour

[prwilkinson]

Hannebery to take Freemans space on the list --- The "If we can get him right" medical spot . Because our resources are so far superior to the Swans ones (or Collingwood for Freeman).

Better yet lets give up our first round or second round (eg priority pick) in the deepest draft in a generation.

Awesome deal.

He wants out, Sydney will want him out. 4 round at best. Take it or leave it. We are doing Sydney a favour

Yep. I concur.

[Joffa Burns]

Sam McLure reporting on SEN this morning that he believes Hanneberry will get done for either (1) our 2019 2nd round pick or (2) our 2018 priority pick - if we are granted one.

I'd be ok with us effectively taking over his existing contract at Sydney but a straight 5 year deal? God no. Maybe the compromise will be a 3 year deal on the same money but with triggers for 4th and 5th years.

If it was our 2019 2nd round pick I'd warm to it. We can always find a way back into the 2nd round without selling the farm.

Keep our 1st rounders and any priority picks, they are the players, if chosen correctly, we can build our future around and then selectively pick the right FA's or RFA's on a needs basis.

Whilst we are not a "destination club" at present, that can change in 2 or 3 years. I do not want us to be a retirement village for once weres. I saw enough of that when we were once Carlton's Retirement Village...never again!!!

Second rounder for a guy on a massive contract who looks cooked is overs for mine.
Take his full contract to give Swans space but exchange the order of a couple of later picks and that is it.

There is a lot to lose here and very little upside, even if he gets his body right he'll be gone before saints play finals again.

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

I understand that Joffa and like your trading idea a lot more. If we got him for that, fantastic.

I don't so much see his value as the Hannerbury of 2014 but his IP coming from a very well run club, his experience and leadership qualities. All that is invaluable to the demographics of our current list.

Exchange of round 2 trades, heavily front end it so we can load up for 2020, 2021 and 2022.

Agree ghost, no issue getting him just don't want to be bent over into paying óvers' through desperation.

[Joffa Burns]

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

Bingo, this is back to the bad old days… STK FC - a place to retire on big coin.

Red flags in every direction here… we are targeting a bloke with chronic injuries and a horrible form line because he is mates with Lethers?

If we are going to throw huge money on a risky bet, then we should roll the dice on a young player who we think may grow into a superstar > Setterfield, Taranto, Florent, Cerra, Berry… godfather one of these blokes, not some washed up xavier old boy.

Agree totally dragit.

Cerra, Florent & Setterfield for me with godfather offers.

I've been writing it for a while on here and believe Setterfield will be a superstar in 3 years time.
I have seen him play at lower level before injured - wow!

Trades for me, assuming we get a priority pick.
#4 and next years (3rd round) + Acres to Freo for Cerra & #8
#8 & a shuffle of later picks in Sydney's favor for Florent & Sydney's second rounder (unlikely to get anything back)
Our priority pick to GWS for Setterfield

In Cerra, Florent & Setterfield - no first round draftee & a second round draftee maybe
Out #picks plus Acres

Why would I do this?
Because I think we'll pick a King instead of a Walsh or Rankine with our first pick.

[CarlD]

Luke Parker as well?

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/swans ... 3e2ad6eb24

[outside66]

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

Bingo, this is back to the bad old days… STK FC - a place to retire on big coin.

Red flags in every direction here… we are targeting a bloke with chronic injuries and a horrible form line because he is mates with Lethers?

If we are going to throw huge money on a risky bet, then we should roll the dice on a young player who we think may grow into a superstar > Setterfield, Taranto, Florent, Cerra, Berry… godfather one of these blokes, not some washed up xavier old boy.

Agree totally dragit.

Cerra, Florent & Setterfield for me with godfather offers.

I've been writing it for a while on here and believe Setterfield will be a superstar in 3 years time.
I have seen him play at lower level before injured - wow!

Trades for me, assuming we get a priority pick.
#4 and next years (3rd round) + Acres to Freo for Cerra & #8
#8 & a shuffle of later picks in Sydney's favor for Florent & Sydney's second rounder (unlikely to get anything back)
Our priority pick to GWS for Setterfield

In Cerra, Florent & Setterfield - no first round draftee & a second round draftee maybe
Out #picks plus Acres

Why would I do this?
Because I think we'll pick a King instead of a Walsh or Rankine with our first pick.

Setterfield is a lock to go to Carlton and IF we get a priority pick (I highly doubt that we will) then it wouldn't be until end of/after the first round.

[outside66]

We will be his retirement home and nest egg provider.

Bingo, this is back to the bad old days… STK FC - a place to retire on big coin.

Red flags in every direction here… we are targeting a bloke with chronic injuries and a horrible form line because he is mates with Lethers?

If we are going to throw huge money on a risky bet, then we should roll the dice on a young player who we think may grow into a superstar > Setterfield, Taranto, Florent, Cerra, Berry… godfather one of these blokes, not some washed up xavier old boy.

Agree totally dragit.

Cerra, Florent & Setterfield for me with godfather offers.

I've been writing it for a while on here and believe Setterfield will be a superstar in 3 years time.
I have seen him play at lower level before injured - wow!

Trades for me, assuming we get a priority pick.
#4 and next years (3rd round) + Acres to Freo for Cerra & #8
#8 & a shuffle of later picks in Sydney's favor for Florent & Sydney's second rounder (unlikely to get anything back)
Our priority pick to GWS for Setterfield

In Cerra, Florent & Setterfield - no first round draftee & a second round draftee maybe
Out #picks plus Acres

Why would I do this?
Because I think we'll pick a King instead of a Walsh or Rankine with our first pick.

Setterfield is a lock to go to Carlton and IF we get a priority pick (I highly doubt that we will) then it wouldn't be until end of/after the first round.

[derby Street]

Nominated the Saints?

[stonecold]

Cerra has just signed a contract extension at the Dockers Joffa!!!!!

[Joffa Burns]

Nominated the Saints?

Yep, Hannebery on herald sun site nominates Saints for trade.
Just waiting on Daisy Thomas and Jarrod Waite to reverse retirement decisions and nominate joining us

[stonecold]

Nominated the Saints?

Yep, Hannebery on herald sun site nominates Saints for trade.
Just waiting on Daisy Thomas and Jarrod Waite to reverse retirement decisions and nominate joining us

Bit worried about you Joffa, first Cerra, now Thomas!!!!!

[Schillaci]

Old and injury prone has been. Let"s get him and be excited.
OMG.

[SaintPav]

Don't worry, Lethers has done his due diligence.

Lethers idea of a due diligence is copping a feel.

[Joffa Burns]

Nominated the Saints?

Yep, Hannebery on herald sun site nominates Saints for trade.
Just waiting on Daisy Thomas and Jarrod Waite to reverse retirement decisions and nominate joining us

Bit worried about you Joffa, first Cerra, now Thomas!!!!!

Yep, Thomas joining saints is the inside word.
Coming as a replacement for Mav who is going to North on $700k a year deal