God it's depressing reading this forum

[magnifisaint]

So many experts with so much doom and gloom. When is the sky falling in. I just can't take it anymore.

[Winmar]

I'm choosing to remain optimistic! Given I can't control anything to do with St KFC it makes life much more enjoyable.

[cwrcyn]

Same group of miserable moaners who find a negative in anything and everything related to our club and choose to go on ad nauseam attacks against club employees and other forum members. It's not that hard to have a civil discussion with others.

[saynta]

So many experts with so much doom and gloom. When is the sky falling in. I just can't take it anymore.

Chicken Little brigade.

[prwilkinson]

Same group of miserable moaners who find a negative in anything and everything related to our club and choose to go on ad nauseam attacks against club employees and other forum members. It's not that hard to have a civil discussion with others.

+1

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Been saying it for weeks.

E.g. Posters making uber negative comments on every player we have drafted (besides King) have never watched any of these players even play I bet.

[prwilkinson]

Been saying it for weeks.

E.g. Posters making uber negative comments on every player we have drafted (besides King) have never watched any of these players even play I bet.

Probably never chased a kick themselves either.

[magnifisaint]

Yes I have absolutely no idea how good these new draftees are but geez give them and the club a friggin chance

[SaintPav]

Been saying it for weeks.

E.g. Posters making uber negative comments on every player we have drafted (besides King) have never watched any of these players even play I bet.

So have you seen them all play, Parkey?

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Not of all them, but I trust the recruiters who actually do this for living more than a negative poster on here talking BS.

And who is Parker?

[SaintPav]

And who is Parker?

You, Parkeysainter.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

No idea who you're on about. Heard that a couple times. I thought I was getting referred to that Parkor game played in France. Strange. Wrong poster sorry.

[evertonfc]

...I mean, to be fair, the club has significantly underperformed on nearly every metric, including drafting.

Only fair that they be given scrutiny.

Jesus - it's our club, not theirs.

[evertonfc]

Not of all them, but I trust the recruiters who actually do this for living more than a negative poster on here talking BS.

The problem with that theory is that you end up drafting Brad Howard and Nicholas Winmar in an attempt to 'game' the system, which is becoming our hallmark.

[Dis Believer]

It's not that hard to have a civil discussion with others.

Apparently you're wrong...……….

[skeptic]

Is it though?

Since the trade period I would say by large the negativity has died down outside of a debate about Max King, which to be honest outside of list manager... even the most pro get a mid posters are at least willing to give the kid a go

[cwrcyn]

It was stated in the footy media a few times this year that outside of the top 15, the remaining pool of players were very evenly rated in this draft. We can only hope that we have grabbed another Sam Fisher (mature age, 22 years old from South Australia, pick 56).

[Joffa Burns]

No idea who you're on about. Heard that a couple times. I thought I was getting referred to that Parkor game played in France. Strange. Wrong poster sorry.

“Apparantly” your spelling (and autocorrect) isn’t great, perhaps you were actually Parkorsainter all along and we were all just getting it wrong

[Scollop]

Same group of miserable moaners who find a negative in anything and everything related to our club and choose to go on ad nauseam attacks against club employees and other forum members. It's not that hard to have a civil discussion with others.

Conversely, a civil and intelligent discussion without all the sycyphantic blue sky brigade tyre pumping crap would also be great. Accept that we are down the bottom of the ladder because of certain incompetence with our recent draft history and there are absolutely no guarantees with any of these young blokes.

I heard Lethers again today talk about Max King and Jack Bytel being stars for the Saints and playing alongside each other for the next ten years. Why does he need to say that? Don't patronise the fans and don't try and predict the future FFS.

How about just letting the young draftees ease into their AFL life and earn their spots with both Sandringham and the seniors. I want these young guys to let their actions do the talking. Next thing you know we'll be hearing what a ripper star they are going to be.

[takeaway]

Same group of miserable moaners who find a negative in anything and everything related to our club and choose to go on ad nauseam attacks against club employees and other forum members. It's not that hard to have a civil discussion with others.

Conversely, a civil and intelligent discussion without all the sycyphantic blue sky brigade tyre pumping crap would also be great. Accept that we are down the bottom of the ladder because of certain incompetence with our recent draft history and there are absolutely no guarantees with any of these young blokes.

I heard Lethers again today talk about Max King and Jack Bytel being stars for the Saints and playing alongside each other for the next ten years. Why does he need to say that? Don't patronise the fans and don't try and predict the future FFS.

How about just letting the young draftees ease into their AFL life and earn their spots with both Sandringham and the seniors. I want these young guys to let their actions do the talking. Next thing you know we'll be hearing what a ripper star they are going to be.

Not sure what sycyphantic is, but without the blue sky brigade how could there possibly be an intelligent discussion? Maybe civil but certainly not intelligent. Lethers was only saying the same thing about their draftees that all the other clubs say, year upon year. Nothing wrong with that.

[Premium89]

I understand it's Hard to be super positive after such a bad year... But if you can't get a little excited about King at pick 4, it's time to have a good hard look at yourself!

[tony74]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

[Scollop]

I really don't get excited about 18 year olds that we draft. Never have and never will. If we got Gaff or Fyfe or Kelly or Martin, I'd definitely be over the moon

Happy with King as a recruit in isolation, but a lot Saints members want some big picture planning. If 2019 is another bottom 4 finish, does that mean that they openly declare a full rebuild. I don't mind if I don't see Max play a single game in 2019 if his development is on track. I don't care what he does in the next 2 years really because I think that his true value as a player will only be realised after he bulks up a bit and improves his endurance.

We aren't going to accidently catapult up the ladder because of this years recruits. I don't know if going for the mature agers is the best course of action either and especially with the go home factor playing a part, but happy to keep an open mind on that. Would be surprised if anyone thought that King and Bytel will make a huge impact in 2019-2020.

[Winmar]

I certainly hope so. He should be a real positive influence around the club. He knows his stuff and is a good bloke to boot.

[saynta]

It was stated in the footy media a few times this year that outside of the top 15, the remaining pool of players were very evenly rated in this draft. We can only hope that we have grabbed another Sam Fisher (mature age, 22 years old from South Australia, pick 56).

Andrew Thompson was 24 when we drafted him