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Re: Jack Stevens Trade

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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:01amNo
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I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
As in senior coaches that are "still working"?

I will guess the assistant is Banger


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Devilhead wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:55am
tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
As in senior coaches that are "still working"?

I will guess the assistant is Banger


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To the best of my knowledge
1. One is
2. No


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Post: # 1796394Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Names Tony?
Or a PM will do. Thanks😁


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I'll guess Luke Beveridge.


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Beno88 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 10:37am I'll guess Luke Beveridge.
Pretty much I think. Luke played at the Bulldogs before he joined the Saints. Maybe history will repeat?


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What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?


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The_Dud wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:03am What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?
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When you occupy Coaching positions (and Captaincy) what you can not do is have favourites

No one is above rigorous assessment - regardless

And that rigorous assessment is the responsibility of the Head Coach who drives the agenda

Where I have my problem with Richardson is that it appears to me he has favourites - and that is not tenable

When you are a Coach (or Captain) you have no friends

Being “nice” does not cut it

To be successful you have to be ruthless - with both criticism and with praise

The Scoreboard is there, and that is the determinant

Richardson leaving his Station to visit Geary was just plain wrong

Geary was then the sole responsibility of the medical staff - that is what they are employed to do

If Geary had been taken directly to hospital would Richardson jumped in the ambulance?


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Richo did the right thing on Sunday re Gears


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Rubyjo wrote: Fri 24 May 2019 11:39am Unfortunately Jack's mental health issues may be the difference between us making the finals or not
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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
Sam Mitchell?

If not then why not?

Sam Mitchell should be the top priority!


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:18am
The_Dud wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:03am What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?
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this will no doubt set off a chain of events in the media :shock:


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
Good comment Tony!

I did some work with Andrew way back when he was at Corrs & recently hired a former Executive from Seek who has provided some insight.

Andrew like most successful Business people is intelligent and unrelenting and definitely does not accept mediocrity.

I think Richo has been given an extremely fair and extended run as coach and I think this is very important if we want to attract a strong candidate as his replacement as they will be looking for stability and support at all levels of the club.

Good insight on the posts in this thread!


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To the top wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:35am

Richardson leaving his Station to visit Geary was just plain wrong

Geary was then the sole responsibility of the medical staff - that is what they are employed to do

If Geary had been taken directly to hospital would Richardson jumped in the ambulance?
Not according to all the experts including those from on the couch.


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A dear friend of mine (Geelong supporter) has many AFL connections through business and his passion for the game. I got some reliable info from him about Jack Steven regarding Geelong's interest in Jack and Jack and Richo.

His information about Geelong's interest came from Stephen Wells, Geelong's Head of List Management.

Through the media reports Geelong heard that there may have been friction with Jack. They had no inside info and didn't know if it was true. So they thought they'd have a crack at him. They contacted his Manager and had the door slammed in their face immediately. There were no further discussions contrary to media reports.

In regard to Jack & Richo, his information came directly from someone (he knows) who was the ITK behind most of the info leaking from the Club last year. Most of you would know of this person (its not Mark Fine). The ITK claimed he had heard this from someone who witnessed the exchange between Jack & Richo.

Let's just say that Jack came into the meeting frustrated and misinformed about the Club's plans (thinking they were starting the rebuild again) and let the Coach have it. Richo didn't cop it and returned fire (he was apparently very 'strong in the contest') asking Jack a few hard questions.

They thrashed it out like men. Then in the end shook hands like bloody men and agreed to get on with it.


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
On the contrary he's a hard ass and he's very much the boss.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:55pm I think Richo has been given an extremely fair and extended run as coach and I think this is very important if we want to attract a strong candidate as his replacement as they will be looking for stability and support at all levels of the club.
True, Richo has had a good run - in terms of years (especially when you consider he was at St Kilda) - but I think he would have had a better run if he was at the Hawks or at one of the other successful clubs.

I know we want to attract a strong candidate, but how are we going to determine this - and, maybe, when it comes to St Kilda, you could safely ask - who will be the next sucker?

I mean we got all of our last 13 coaches in a row (since Alan Jeans) wrong - 12 of them have been sacked and one abandoned ship.
There must be another issue at play that we're not identifying or ignoring - could it be our recruiting?

What are we getting wrong, time in and time out?
What is the constant here?

How many A graders have we poached from other clubs over the last 12 years, say - compared to the Hawks, etc..?
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I do hope Harvs is our next coach, whether its next year or the year after. He's done his apprenticeship.


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:18am
The_Dud wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:03am What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?
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Thanks for sharing your insights Tony. Cheers


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:18am
The_Dud wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:03am What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?
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Oh, f***...


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 12:17am I mean obviously I can’t categorically be certain of that but you have to take into account Ratts is currently our forward line coach. Interesting.
I can however start the rumour mill going by telling you we have certain members of our club who have shared a coffee with two senior coaches and one assistant coach. And I’m pretty certain that that’s the least I know. Our President May appear meek and mild but he does not accept mediocrity.
No doubt our Prez is definitely a results-driven businessman and he built his empire on getting people on board who achieve success quickly. He will not be sitting there thinking Richo is doing OK.


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tony74 wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:18am
The_Dud wrote: Tue 04 Jun 2019 11:03am What percentage chance do you give Richo being at our club next year Tony?
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Thanks Tony. The difficult thing with this situation is, if Alan is aware, which I'm sure he is, can we expect his full commitment to the role?


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