Let's. Face it something stinks about Steven.

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Let's. Face it something stinks about Steven.

Post: # 1814640Post Rubyjo »

Wants out...Will. Play for geelong next year... Good riddance.. Mental health issues.. Don't want to be here... Don't insult people. With mental health issues. It's footy.


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Post: # 1814645Post Enrico_Misso »

The whole thing is fishy.
Sounds like he wants out and has spat the dummy.
And now is playing games with us.

But as an AA player we should stand our ground and call his bluff to make sure we get proper compensation.

If we don't get offered adequate compensation we should block his exit.
But if we can get good compensation then show him the door.


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Post: # 1814648Post Rubyjo »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 9:11pm The whole thing is fishy.
Sounds like he wants out and has spat the dummy.
And now is playing games with us.

But as an AA player we should stand our ground and call his bluff to make sure we get proper compensation.

If we don't get offered adequate compensation we should block his exit.
But if we can get good compensation then show him the door.
Some one sees it its been Freaking fake mental health and I'm furious he could use that what a faker.. He's out no longer a Saint..


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Post: # 1814649Post HardSaint »

anyone hear Richo on SEN this morning?
"he loves Lorne and spending time down there"


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Post: # 1814652Post Myron Gaines »

So you think Jack made it all up & the entire industry has had the wooled pulled over their eyes? Yea nice conspiracy theory. Just wow.


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Post: # 1814653Post HardSaint »

unhappiness and a sense of feeling trapped somewhere you dont want to be are often the pre cursors to depression and mental health issues

unwittingly is a term that could be used


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Post: # 1814659Post st.byron »

Rubyjo wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 9:01pm Wants out...Will. Play for geelong next year... Good riddance.. Mental health issues.. Don't want to be here... Don't insult people. With mental health issues. It's footy.
Do you reckon that mental health issues and footy are mutually exclusive?


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Post: # 1814660Post Life Long Saint »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 9:11pm But as an AA player we should stand our ground and call his bluff to make sure we get proper compensation.
He's not an AA player.
Four time B&F and a Rising Star Nomination...But no AA.


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Post: # 1814662Post Rocket »

Only cost us $800k a year. It’s only money ... throw in Hanners and there goes $1.6m.


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Post: # 1814665Post Enrico_Misso »

Maybe not AA but in the AA "squad" several times.


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Post: # 1814668Post The_Dud »

‘Insiders’ say he loves the club and loves the players.

He’s a millionaire (unless he’s been stupid) living in Melbourne. Geelong is an hour away and Lorne 2. It’s not like he’s in WA or QLD.

If moving an hour down the road is going to cure what apparently ails him then I’ve got major skeptical hippo eyes.

Something smells a bit fishy and I’m thinking my initial sentence might not be true.

OR he might actually love the place and stay, who knows.


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Post: # 1814672Post elizabethr »

Why the hate for a loyal son of the St Kilda football club ?


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elizabethr wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 10:02pm Why the hate for a loyal son of the St Kilda football club ?
Zachary........


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Post: # 1814679Post degruch »

elizabethr wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 10:02pm Why the hate for a loyal son of the St Kilda football club ?
I'm not sure why there needs to be such drama also...if he wants to go, and a deal that is mutually beneficial to both parties can be struck, then great...I don't care why he wants to go, he's done a fantastic job over his career, played some great footy in some really awful teams, I'd still love him to remain a 1 club player though.


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Richardson’s comments are interesting

But put the position this way

St Kilda are in the market for class players (as are all clubs) so if Steven at 30 years of age was a Geelong player and was mooted to come to St Kilda what would be the response?

Would he represent the ability and profile complimentary to St Kilda?

Or would we respond “too old at 30 and does not fit the profile we are persuading to come to the Club - so we can better deploy our financial resources elsewhere”

And before Hannebery is mentioned, I think he is 28 so 2 years younger which is significant

The extension of this question is Geelong and its List strategy trying to get one final premiership from an ageing side which excels at home but struggles away from home

Note that I have no regard for Geelong - for a raft of reasons but currently my assessment of them and their List is being confirmed - again

St Kilda taking a 28 year old is at the upper end of the profile - taking a 30 year old outside the profile

So what are Geelong doing?

Overestimating their ageing List?

If they are of the view Steven is going to deliver that end of era premiership along with Ablett and their other older players then make them pay the premium - big time

I would trust - and hope - that over the next 2 years if Jack does wish to leave he will regret it as our List and its development leave Geelong in our wake

Our window will open and Geelong’s is closing - including because they are seeking out a (another) 30 year old

St Kilda did that with role players from other Clubs - and look where that got us


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And just to add, I would prefer Steven stayed at St Kilda to enjoy the ride over the next couple of years - as a mentor and leader of a young side on an upward trajectory

To me he deserves that conclusion to his career


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Post: # 1814698Post Jacks Back »

It may be his hair. It doesn't look like its been washed in a while.


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Post: # 1814700Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

No one really knows what the major dealio is regarding Jack just yet. His life has obviously gone bad in some areas so if we get a good trade deal out if then great.

I don't think he is faking anything btw. He is a club champion and should leave on good terms.


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Post: # 1814708Post Teflon »

Do the deal for sure
He ain’t the future
Be ruthless get something for him
Let Cats grow old gracefully.....


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Post: # 1814713Post B.M »

We’ll get very little for him


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Post: # 1814719Post Teflon »

B.M wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 11:39pm We’ll get very little for him
We’ll get more for him than we are getting from him now
Do the deal he’s 30 not 300 had a year off basically Cats will pay


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Post: # 1814732Post Linton Lodger »

True Believer wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 10:02pm
elizabethr wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 10:02pm Why the hate for a loyal son of the St Kilda football club ?
Zachary........
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Post: # 1814733Post miskycat »

elizabethr wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2019 10:02pm Why the hate for a loyal son of the St Kilda football club ?
I agree, elizabethr.
Horrible word 'stink' and the uninformed comments are so disappointing.
Jack Steven has given so much to the club. Great, exciting player.
I really hope he will be back in the centre next year.
Lots of love, Jack. Don't be deterred by small minded nons.
You have a lot of support from ordinary fans. xx


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Post: # 1814735Post Devilhead »

Kardinia Park is just a retirement village these days

Players put up a good fight early on but soon the nanna nap comes calling and it's..... straight sets ..... good night Irene!!


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Post: # 1814742Post Yorkeys »

Given Jack is in a bad head space and the Saints are doing all the Club can to help him because a) it cares and b) he is a good retention. Would that not then suggest dear Watson, that Geelong are cynically exploiting the situation to woo Jack and lower his price. The case could be made that he is leaving a Club that cares and has nurtured him for one that just wants to use him. You have to hope its the hack journos that are spreading false stories. Geelong would not put pressure on a man suffering depression would it? Of course it has nothing to lose, does it, by being predatory as it has a store of ordinary players, sometimes made to look ok by a few aging champions, that it can trade. And has Lorne suddenly changed after all these years or are journos over egging those ties.


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