Who’s better, Bruce or Boyd?

[Joffa Burns]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

[stkfc1]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Would do that in a heartbeat but doubt they'd let Smith go.

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

[SaintPav]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Like your thinking.

Let's lock our price in then screw them hard.

[Spinner]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Why don’t we just ask for Bont as well?

Bit Dodoro like just picking a player you want in return.

[SaintPav]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Why don’t we just ask for Bont as well?

Bit Dodoro like just picking a player you want in return.

Why not!

[theoracle]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

[magnifisaint]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

If you watch Mike Sheahans interview with him he says he's not interested in playing again.

[stkfc1]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

If you watch Mike Sheahans interview with him he says he's not interested in playing again.

Things change but fair enough. Just think it would be a good fit.

And no Max King isn't a block of flats (that's a new one)
With Battle now likely to go forward its a very inexperienced forward line. Whilst its a good long term plan, it would be nice to have a senior big body to help out. Ryder will help but there's a big question mark on how effective he'll be.

[SAINT-LEE]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

He might as well be....he was injured in his last season of pre AFL.
He was injured again differently ending his season in VFL.

In 2019...he's less than a block of flats...until he proves differently....which we all hope happens.

[Spinner]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Why don’t we just ask for Bont as well?

Bit Dodoro like just picking a player you want in return.

Why not!

Add in Naughton as well... we’ll need another key forward if we trade Bruce!

[Joffa Burns]

Dogs gave up Ryan Griffen & #6 for Boyd.

Bruce is a proven solid player at his peak, given the precedent we should he getting their #14 for Bruce.

The Boyd trade helped them to a flag and they are arguably in the hunt next season with Bruce & Keath joining them.

If we get Geelongs 2nd round pick (say #34) for Steven.

How about Bruce & #5 & #34 for #14 & Bailey Smith & their 3rd rounder.

We then use #14 on Hill which looks about right.

Out - Bruce, Steven & #5
In - Smith, Hill & 3rd round pick.

Why don’t we just ask for Bont as well?

Bit Dodoro like just picking a player you want in return.

Well if they throw in Bont they can keep their 3rd rounder.

[Enrico_Misso]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

If you watch Mike Sheahans interview with him he says he's not interested in playing again.

If we are unloading one player with mental health issues why would be want to pick up another?
Why make things even harder than they need to be!

[To the top]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

[kosifantutti]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

They finished 3 games and 24% ahead of us. That would make them a better team.
We also beat them in 2016 and Richmond in 2017.

[SaintPav]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

What did he say?

[Spinner]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

Ladder position...

[To the top]

But, we beat them quite easily

So how did that happen?

Ferguson subscribed to the view that he was never interested in the comings and going’s at lower Clubs, only the sides in contention along with Manchester United and where he would respond to maintain Manchester United’s advantage

I basically know nothing of WB apart from media headlines so absolutely nothing

But where do they sit with a core of experienced players versus the demographic of our List and how did injuries impact them?

So season performance is acknowledged but we still jumped out of the blocks and beat them quite comfortably

We didn’t have too bad a side on the park that night - look at the stats and where the contributions came from because that, to me at least, is the benchmark we must start from and improve from

So that was good enough for starters

We lose Bruce from that side

And we add AFL experience in Hannebery, Hill and Ryder

Plus we have the potential of King and Bytel

As I say, a start point

We are still a couple of class players short to be sure including that another Hill would be priceless and that we need a more offensive presence from Steele, Ross and Dunstan who are impeded as role players not getting into dangerous positions and hitting the scoreboard

With another year and Carlisle, Clark, Coffield, Battle and hopefully Roberton and Austin or Claravino as our back 6 we look to be harder to score against

Our mids need to get more active noting the possessions in that WB game - and the contribution from Acres

And against WB we kicked 17.14 without a contribution from Bruce

So there you go

[Jacks Back]

But, we beat them quite easily

So how did that happen?

We changed coach.

Coincidentally that's what a bloke on the radio said GWS should have done this week - When the old coach gets the sars and a new one steps in the teams have won.

[degruch]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

Ladder position...

You could return fire with who got a better draw, or had a better run with injuries. We barely raised a sweat when we mowed them down this year, they didn't against us previously, I've never thought much of their list, nor ours...so lets call it a draw?

[Spinner]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

Ladder position...

You could return fire with who got a better draw, or had a better run with injuries. We barely raised a sweat when we mowed them down this year, they didn't against us previously, I've never thought much of their list, nor ours...so lets call it a draw?

Good point.

The bulldogs finished 7th... The saints finished 14th.

I remember playing the Suns, the Blues twice... in fact it was largely seen as the easiest fixture going into 2019.

But yes, we are a better team than the Dogs just because we beat them once.

[degruch]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

Ladder position...

You could return fire with who got a better draw, or had a better run with injuries. We barely raised a sweat when we mowed them down this year, they didn't against us previously, I've never thought much of their list, nor ours...so lets call it a draw?

Good point.

The bulldogs finished 7th... The saints finished 14th.

I remember playing the Suns, the Blues twice... in fact it was largely seen as the easiest fixture going into 2019.

But yes, we are a better team than the Dogs just because we beat them once.

Great point also. Geez, they did well in the finals, didn't they? Looked like a real powerhouse, thoroughly deserved to be there. My point is only that looking at ladder positions proves jack s***...who will be presenting the cup to Geelong tomorrow?

[ausfatcat]

Wonder whether it would be worth having a chat to Boyd to see where he's at. Wouldnt have to pay much and would be a perfect Bruce replacement.

So, what's Max King? A block of flats?

If you watch Mike Sheahans interview with him he says he's not interested in playing again.

If we are unloading one player with mental health issues why would be want to pick up another?
Why make things even harder than they need to be!

Even without the health issues why would we want him? Just anther talented junior that is a GOP at best

[Spinner]

The last time we played WB we beat them 17.14 to 14.5

So how come all of a sudden they are a better team than us?

Look at the stats from that game

We add Hannebery, Hill and Ryder and lose Bruce

Plus we add the unknown of King and Bytel - and anyone else we snag who is an AFL known contributor

So why sell ourselves short v WB?

Remember what Ferguson said when At Manchester United

Ladder position...

You could return fire with who got a better draw, or had a better run with injuries. We barely raised a sweat when we mowed them down this year, they didn't against us previously, I've never thought much of their list, nor ours...so lets call it a draw?

Good point.

The bulldogs finished 7th... The saints finished 14th.

I remember playing the Suns, the Blues twice... in fact it was largely seen as the easiest fixture going into 2019.

But yes, we are a better team than the Dogs just because we beat them once.

Great point also. Geez, they did well in the finals, didn't they? Looked like a real powerhouse, thoroughly deserved to be there. My point is only that looking at ladder positions proves jack s***...who will be presenting the cup to Geelong tomorrow?

Better than how the Saints went in the finals I think.

Making the finals is a big accomplishment. Guess we have forgotten given the last 8 years.