Low probably of beating Port in Adelaide
Don't risk his hammy this game.
Play safe and hope he can play the next 4 games.
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Low probably of beating Port in Adelaide
Lonie is No 1 in the competition for pressure.To the top wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:07pm Bringing pressure when the opposition have the ball is a not negotiable requirement of every player
You do not select players to bring defensive pressure
If you are playing as a forward the expectation is that you kick goals
Lonie is producing at well less than 1 goal per game
The pressure will be on Parker/Hind to (also) snag a couple of goals because if they are kicking a couple (and doing all the other things required) they will not be dropped
If they are not hitting the scoreboard they will be in trouble
Except when kicking for goals. Then he crumbles under it.ace wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:13pmLonie is No 1 in the competition for pressure.To the top wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:07pm Bringing pressure when the opposition have the ball is a not negotiable requirement of every player
You do not select players to bring defensive pressure
If you are playing as a forward the expectation is that you kick goals
Lonie is producing at well less than 1 goal per game
The pressure will be on Parker/Hind to (also) snag a couple of goals because if they are kicking a couple (and doing all the other things required) they will not be dropped
If they are not hitting the scoreboard they will be in trouble
Battle for Parker as tallish forward ( Parker is 190 cm)To the top wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:12pm And just to add, we can improve this side by Long, Battle and Hannebery being fit and available
So which 3 miss out to accomodate those inclusions?
He's been pretty good over the last 12 months, but he tries to do the miraculous instead of focusing on the basics. His set shots have generally been ok if he's under 40m out. I think he wastes a few of our chances when he should be doing the team thing.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:19pmExcept when kicking for goals. Then he crumbles under it.ace wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:13pmLonie is No 1 in the competition for pressure.To the top wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 10:07pm Bringing pressure when the opposition have the ball is a not negotiable requirement of every player
You do not select players to bring defensive pressure
If you are playing as a forward the expectation is that you kick goals
Lonie is producing at well less than 1 goal per game
The pressure will be on Parker/Hind to (also) snag a couple of goals because if they are kicking a couple (and doing all the other things required) they will not be dropped
If they are not hitting the scoreboard they will be in trouble
So long as he's there if we make finals. Then his experience and his talent will be invaluable.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
samuraisaint wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 9:57amSo long as he's there if we make finals. Then his experience and his talent will be invaluable.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
Rate both and no doubt the team plays better with both in it.whiskers3614 wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 10:06amsamuraisaint wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 9:57amSo long as he's there if we make finals. Then his experience and his talent will be invaluable.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
I can't believe the amount of leeway people on here are prepared to allow this clown and Hill!
Two monumental c**k ups in trading, one a cripple and the other a pea heart and still the optimism persists.
I can see where you're coming from GL because the jury is still out on the wisdom of recruiting Dan Hannebery, but in the current circumstances it is hard to know why he was not selected for the game against Port, there could be a myriad of reasons.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
Sinclair is what they used to call a collingwood six footer.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 12:00am We still are shortish but at least Parker adds some height.
I think lack of height could a factor.
Parker 190cm vs Lonie 174cm
But still
Gresh 179cm
Butler 182cm
Kent 179cm
It is small.
and Sincs is only 181cm
Once he's won two B&Fs he will. I'm sure he'll get more opportunity. I look forward to see how he bounces back and what he's learned.
Well put Sanctorum. Believe me I think we are a much better side with Hannebery in it. I also have no concerns about Hill.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 11:06amI can see where you're coming from GL because the jury is still out on the wisdom of recruiting Dan Hannebery, but in the current circumstances it is hard to know why he was not selected for the game against Port, there could be a myriad of reasons.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
I'm still on the Hanners bandwagon, he is far from a spent force and there is no reason why he, like Bradley Hill, won't get back to his best in the future.
But it may not be until 2021, when there has been a further clean-out of dead wood, the possible addition of another elite midfielder plus the team's emerging talent maturing, that St Kilda will become a formidable force.
That said I am quite delighted with the ins and outs against Port which combined with the latter missing a couple of big names should give the Saints a real chance to win 2 on the trot at Adelaide Oval. Here's hoping!
Cheap shot mate, really cheap shot and beneath you really.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 12:36pmOnce he's won two B&Fs he will. I'm sure he'll get more opportunity. I look forward to see how he bounces back and what he's learned.
Roughy is in Melbourne. Bit hard to give advice on the sidelines from that far away.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 12:45pmWell put Sanctorum. Believe me I think we are a much better side with Hannebery in it. I also have no concerns about Hill.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 11:06amI can see where you're coming from GL because the jury is still out on the wisdom of recruiting Dan Hannebery, but in the current circumstances it is hard to know why he was not selected for the game against Port, there could be a myriad of reasons.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
I'm still on the Hanners bandwagon, he is far from a spent force and there is no reason why he, like Bradley Hill, won't get back to his best in the future.
But it may not be until 2021, when there has been a further clean-out of dead wood, the possible addition of another elite midfielder plus the team's emerging talent maturing, that St Kilda will become a formidable force.
That said I am quite delighted with the ins and outs against Port which combined with the latter missing a couple of big names should give the Saints a real chance to win 2 on the trot at Adelaide Oval. Here's hoping!
We have Roughy to give advice, insight and drive off the field and he's being paid accordingly. I desperately want Hanners to be doing all that on the field and earn the bulk of what he's getting paid by being out on the field improving our midfield.
I hope both strike their best form in our last 10 games of 2020, that includes at least 3 finals.
Melbourne is closer to Adelaide than Noosasaynta wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 1:36pmRoughy is in Melbourne. Bit hard to give advice on the sidelines from that far away.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 12:45pmWell put Sanctorum. Believe me I think we are a much better side with Hannebery in it. I also have no concerns about Hill.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 11:06amI can see where you're coming from GL because the jury is still out on the wisdom of recruiting Dan Hannebery, but in the current circumstances it is hard to know why he was not selected for the game against Port, there could be a myriad of reasons.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
I'm still on the Hanners bandwagon, he is far from a spent force and there is no reason why he, like Bradley Hill, won't get back to his best in the future.
But it may not be until 2021, when there has been a further clean-out of dead wood, the possible addition of another elite midfielder plus the team's emerging talent maturing, that St Kilda will become a formidable force.
That said I am quite delighted with the ins and outs against Port which combined with the latter missing a couple of big names should give the Saints a real chance to win 2 on the trot at Adelaide Oval. Here's hoping!
We have Roughy to give advice, insight and drive off the field and he's being paid accordingly. I desperately want Hanners to be doing all that on the field and earn the bulk of what he's getting paid by being out on the field improving our midfield.
I hope both strike their best form in our last 10 games of 2020, that includes at least 3 finals.
Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 3:51pmMelbourne is closer to Adelaide than Noosasaynta wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 1:36pmRoughy is in Melbourne. Bit hard to give advice on the sidelines from that far away.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 12:45pmWell put Sanctorum. Believe me I think we are a much better side with Hannebery in it. I also have no concerns about Hill.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Fri 24 Jul 2020 11:06amI can see where you're coming from GL because the jury is still out on the wisdom of recruiting Dan Hannebery, but in the current circumstances it is hard to know why he was not selected for the game against Port, there could be a myriad of reasons.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 23 Jul 2020 9:43pmOmitted? I think he needs to be in before he's omitted but kinda understand what you mean skeptic.
Sadly this is becoming the norm / expectation with him. Unless he can get on the park and string some games together and actually contribute to an upwards trend for St Kilda, he'll always be our & Lethlean's albatross.
I'm still on the Hanners bandwagon, he is far from a spent force and there is no reason why he, like Bradley Hill, won't get back to his best in the future.
But it may not be until 2021, when there has been a further clean-out of dead wood, the possible addition of another elite midfielder plus the team's emerging talent maturing, that St Kilda will become a formidable force.
That said I am quite delighted with the ins and outs against Port which combined with the latter missing a couple of big names should give the Saints a real chance to win 2 on the trot at Adelaide Oval. Here's hoping!
We have Roughy to give advice, insight and drive off the field and he's being paid accordingly. I desperately want Hanners to be doing all that on the field and earn the bulk of what he's getting paid by being out on the field improving our midfield.
I hope both strike their best form in our last 10 games of 2020, that includes at least 3 finals.
That's not a problem, just prop a life-size cardboard cut-out of Roughie on the bench, with speakers and headphones to enable him to interact with the players when they are benched - he can call out observations, instructions etc for all to hear, crikey, even turn up the volume so that the players can hear him on the ground, all from the comfort of his armchair at home. Would cost bugger all and a damn sight cheaper than having him in the hub....