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Re: Joyce

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So Joyce has been retained. As I knew he would. I was always going to nearly piss myself laughing when the self proclaimed "experts" were proven wrong once more.

Thankfully the Saints coaches have a tad more football nous.


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Re: Joyce

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saynta wrote: Fri 07 May 2021 9:28pm So Joyce has been retained. As I knew he would. I was always going to nearly piss myself laughing when the self proclaimed "experts" were proven wrong once more.

Thankfully the Saints coaches have a tad more football nous.
I had a third row level 1 seat just inside the 50m line so I hard a pretty good, close-up view of Joyce. Kept a cool head and I felt he fitted right in.

No doubt those who didn't attend the match got a better view on the TV or, worse, the radio may have a more expert opinion than little old me.


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Trev from the Bush wrote: Fri 07 May 2021 9:48pm
saynta wrote: Fri 07 May 2021 9:28pm So Joyce has been retained. As I knew he would. I was always going to nearly piss myself laughing when the self proclaimed "experts" were proven wrong once more.

Thankfully the Saints coaches have a tad more football nous.
I had a third row level 1 seat just inside the 50m line so I hard a pretty good, close-up view of Joyce. Kept a cool head and I felt he fitted right in.

No doubt those who didn't attend the match got a better view on the TV or, worse, the radio may have a more expert opinion than little old me.
I find it slightly amusing to see know nothing know alls pontificate at length from the comfort of their lounge chairs about the so called deficiencies of saint player after saint player week after f****** week.

Good to see an opposing opinion from someone who actually attends games.

Thanks mate. :wink:


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Did his job today


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saynta wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 5:37pm Did his job today
I agree did his job nothing special but yeah did his job


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He went when he had to today, and his effort crashing the pack hard without infringing with 90 seconds to go was a thing of beauty!

Well played Darragh!


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samuraisaint wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:07pm He went when he had to today, and his effort crashing the pack hard without infringing with 90 seconds to go was a thing of beauty!

Well played Darragh!
Great pickup...so true. :D :D :D :D


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Re: Joyce

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After seeing him today, will play at least 50 games.

New draftees will probably overtake him in the next few years (e.g. Highmore).


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Re: Joyce

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He was ok today but he’s still not a long term solution.

At any rate, there was one nice bit of attacking play out of the backline in the third which I liked, which if we saw more of, would really help our cause.

I think it’s got a lot to do with opportunity, confidence and just backing yourself.


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Re: Joyce

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Serious question ... why are we playing Joyce when we have Highmore? They seem similarly sized and play in a similar position except one is a proper footballer who’s an elite kick and the other is Joyce?

It’s a serious question - I don’t know what attributes Joyce possesses that would keep a proper intercept marking defender with an accurate peg out of the team.


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Hawkins 197
Cameron 197

Can’t see Wilkie or Joyce being big enough to stop them!


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Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.


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B.M wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:49pm Hawkins 197
Cameron 197

Can’t see Wilkie or Joyce being big enough to stop them!
Jake or Frawley need to come in.


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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:53pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.
Cool.

Did you talk to your mate?


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saynta wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 5:37pm Did his job today
That's all you can ask for someone who gets paid.


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Re: Joyce

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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:37pm He was ok today but he’s still not a long term solution.

At any rate, there was one nice bit of attacking play out of the backline in the third which I liked, which if we saw more of, would really help our cause.

I think it’s got a lot to do with opportunity, confidence and just backing yourself.
Interesting.

I haven’t seen the game and will watch it later when the replay is available

Watching the highlights on the AFL app I see two (possibly 3 - couldn’t clear make DJ out on the last) instances where the man he was directly playing on got free of Joyce and kicked a goal. History tends to suggest that winners are grinners but it will be interesting to see the take when either results don’t go our way or the defence is seriously under the pump. Joyce is 24, has been on the list for years now and in football terms he’s in his prime. Needs to be able to stand on his own when needed and the odd good effort isn’t enough

Geelong will be a big test for him next week


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Re: Joyce

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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:55pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:53pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.
Cool.

Did you talk to your mate?
Yes I did, saw a few old faces as well today at functions on the Western wing on levels 2 & 3. A few sainter fans found their way to the pirate life deck today which was nice to see.

Can’t name the source but I’ve known them 15 years or so. My take is Ben heads back to Melbourne for season 2023.

Wouldn’t say Saints are odds on either, some close may feel the boys are better playing apart.

If I was a punter in 2023 he plays in Melbourne but not with us.


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Re: Joyce

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Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:55pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:53pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.
Cool.

Did you talk to your mate?
Yes I did, saw a few old faces as well today at functions on the Western wing on levels 2 & 3. A few sainter fans found their way to the pirate life deck today which was nice to see.

Can’t name the source but I’ve known them 15 years or so. My take is Ben heads back to Melbourne for season 2023.

Wouldn’t say Saints are odds on either, some close may feel the boys are better playing apart.

If I was a punter in 2023 he plays in Melbourne but not with us.
I'd like Sam Collins playing full back for us.


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Re: Joyce

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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:12pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:55pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:53pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.
Cool.

Did you talk to your mate?
Yes I did, saw a few old faces as well today at functions on the Western wing on levels 2 & 3. A few sainter fans found their way to the pirate life deck today which was nice to see.

Can’t name the source but I’ve known them 15 years or so. My take is Ben heads back to Melbourne for season 2023.

Wouldn’t say Saints are odds on either, some close may feel the boys are better playing apart.

If I was a punter in 2023 he plays in Melbourne but not with us.
I'd like Sam Collins playing full back for us.
Good player, hard as a cats head and highly rated at the Suns.

Touk Miller is a guy who is another gun who doesn’t have the profile in Melbourne.


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Re: Joyce

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skeptic wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:58pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:37pm He was ok today but he’s still not a long term solution.

At any rate, there was one nice bit of attacking play out of the backline in the third which I liked, which if we saw more of, would really help our cause.

I think it’s got a lot to do with opportunity, confidence and just backing yourself.
Interesting.

I haven’t seen the game and will watch it later when the replay is available

Watching the highlights on the AFL app I see two (possibly 3 - couldn’t clear make DJ out on the last) instances where the man he was directly playing on got free of Joyce and kicked a goal. History tends to suggest that winners are grinners but it will be interesting to see the take when either results don’t go our way or the defence is seriously under the pump. Joyce is 24, has been on the list for years now and in football terms he’s in his prime. Needs to be able to stand on his own when needed and the odd good effort isn’t enough

Geelong will be a big test for him next week
Yeah, we recruit an Irishman and expect him to master the game immediately.

He has been a steadying influence the past two weeks and could not be omitted on form alone.

Yes, Geelong will be a big test for him. The same applies to all his teammates.


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Re: Joyce

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Trev from the Bush wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:16pm
skeptic wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:58pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:37pm He was ok today but he’s still not a long term solution.

At any rate, there was one nice bit of attacking play out of the backline in the third which I liked, which if we saw more of, would really help our cause.

I think it’s got a lot to do with opportunity, confidence and just backing yourself.
Interesting.

I haven’t seen the game and will watch it later when the replay is available

Watching the highlights on the AFL app I see two (possibly 3 - couldn’t clear make DJ out on the last) instances where the man he was directly playing on got free of Joyce and kicked a goal. History tends to suggest that winners are grinners but it will be interesting to see the take when either results don’t go our way or the defence is seriously under the pump. Joyce is 24, has been on the list for years now and in football terms he’s in his prime. Needs to be able to stand on his own when needed and the odd good effort isn’t enough

Geelong will be a big test for him next week
Yeah, we recruit an Irishman and expect him to master the game immediately.

He has been a steadying influence the past two weeks and could not be omitted on form alone.

Yes, Geelong will be a big test for him. The same applies to all his teammates.
According to the AFL app he debuted in 2018. That has him into his 4th year at least


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It’s Joyce’s 5th year as a professional AFL footballer. I wouldn’t expect huge improvement but I think he’s a decent player.


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skeptic wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:58pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:37pm He was ok today but he’s still not a long term solution.

At any rate, there was one nice bit of attacking play out of the backline in the third which I liked, which if we saw more of, would really help our cause.

I think it’s got a lot to do with opportunity, confidence and just backing yourself.
Interesting.

I haven’t seen the game and will watch it later when the replay is available

Watching the highlights on the AFL app I see two (possibly 3 - couldn’t clear make DJ out on the last) instances where the man he was directly playing on got free of Joyce and kicked a goal. History tends to suggest that winners are grinners but it will be interesting to see the take when either results don’t go our way or the defence is seriously under the pump. Joyce is 24, has been on the list for years now and in football terms he’s in his prime. Needs to be able to stand on his own when needed and the odd good effort isn’t enough

Geelong will be a big test for him next week
Reasonable call but that prime age is for someone who grew up playing the game.

For Alabakis, his prime age will be 57.


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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:12pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:55pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:53pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 6:50pm Good question. I think Ratts is sending a message to the playing group by rewarding hard work and effort. He’s probably also doing everything that is being asked of him.
I thought he was ok today (Joyce).
He’s bigger and stronger than Highmore.

Joyce is quick and courageous.
I think he is a year or so away but could make it.
Cool.

Did you talk to your mate?
Yes I did, saw a few old faces as well today at functions on the Western wing on levels 2 & 3. A few sainter fans found their way to the pirate life deck today which was nice to see.

Can’t name the source but I’ve known them 15 years or so. My take is Ben heads back to Melbourne for season 2023.

Wouldn’t say Saints are odds on either, some close may feel the boys are better playing apart.

If I was a punter in 2023 he plays in Melbourne but not with us.
I'd like Sam Collins playing full back for us.
He is strong, he is tough but if Max could one grab marks & kick through the ball he would have looked average.


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