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2009 GF

Post: # 1965584Post barwon saint »

Just looking through my book of footy cards and cant believe we lost that game.
Here is a list of All Australians in that team.
Rooey
Lenny
Dal
Milney
Goddard
Ball and playing against us in 2010
Dempster he won in 2010
Swap McQualter for Armitage and just maybe !


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You are a footy card collector?


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barwon saint wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:03pm Just looking through my book of footy cards and cant believe we lost that game.
Here is a list of All Australians in that team.
Rooey
Lenny
Dal
Milney
Goddard
Ball and playing against us in 2010
Dempster he won in 2010
Swap McQualter for Armitage and just maybe !
Should never has lost that game we were the better side on the day but just couldn't convert on the score board + Raphs lack of awareness gifted them a couple of goals & the Tom Hawkins goal that was clearly a point . That was ours for the taking as was the 2010 just needed a bit of luck but hey lucky toe poke from Ablett unlucky bounce for Milne & the rest is history now :cry:


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Every year from 1972.
Last 20 years All australian and Best and Fairest cards
Rooey MVP in 2004 voted by his peers my Fave.


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Post: # 1965591Post barwon saint »

Yep video review now would have showed a point and right in front of me Clarke getting run down and they scored a goal from that.


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Post: # 1965595Post SunnyErnie »

bangaulegend wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:35pm
barwon saint wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:03pm Just looking through my book of footy cards and cant believe we lost that game.
Here is a list of All Australians in that team.
Rooey
Lenny
Dal
Milney
Goddard
Ball and playing against us in 2010
Dempster he won in 2010
Swap McQualter for Armitage and just maybe !
Should never has lost that game we were the better side on the day but just couldn't convert on the score board + Raphs lack of awareness gifted them a couple of goals & the Tom Hawkins goal that was clearly a point . That was ours for the taking as was the 2010 just needed a bit of luck but hey lucky toe poke from Ablett unlucky bounce for Milne & the rest is history now :cry:
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Rain and three horrendous umpiring calls. Geelong got everything that day.


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Chapman coming back on after tearing a hamstring.

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Last Friday, we saw the result of "taking your chances". After quarter time, we kicked 11-3 to 8-14. Hence the win.

In 2009, we did not take our chances. We actually lost by a goal, with the St Kilda players walking off the ground and off the mark (Jason Blake), which allowed Rooke to kick the ball along the ground for a goal after the siren.

We had beaten Geelong in round 14 by a goal, so there is no evidence that we were vastly superior. Our advantage was our marking talls, and with the rain, that was neutralised. There is no doubt that their backline was better than ours. Hence their premiership. Show me a team with the best backline in the league and and I'll show you a premiership team.


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barwon saint wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:36pm Every year from 1972.
Last 20 years All australian and Best and Fairest cards
Rooey MVP in 2004 voted by his peers my Fave.

I used to collect everything but it got too damn expensive so only doing Saints and I kept all my Cats also (wives team).
Even saying that Select Australia are too greedy with the duplications they bring out.
Can I ask, why only back to 1972?


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CURLY wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:59pm Rain and three horrendous umpiring calls. Geelong got everything that day.
Who’d have guessed Curly blames the umpires for our loss in 09? 😂😂😂


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 7:19am
CURLY wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:59pm Rain and three horrendous umpiring calls. Geelong got everything that day.
Who’d have guessed Curly blames the umpires for our loss in 09? 😂😂😂
Proven correct after the fact which is to late. Amazing three clear errors two resulted in Geelong goals the other denied us a shot on goal.


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We lost because too many Saints got beaten in individual contests- especially in the forward half, and that's one thing that stood out for me on the day


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spert wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 10:06am We lost because too many Saints got beaten in individual contests- especially in the forward half, and that's one thing that stood out for me on the day
Didn't help that our f***wit coach" forgot" to put Ball back on the ground for the whole of the last quarter and that there was blatant maggot bias against Schneider who was mugged out on the ground.
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We had a bunch of lazy forwards who got beaten if you want it in a nutshell.


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spert wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 11:03am We had a bunch of lazy forwards who got beaten if you want it in a nutshell.
We had 4 forwards and two role players.


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Should have played Sharman!


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Bad coaching and bad umpiring not withstanding, we ultimately lost because we missed too many simple goals.

The above factors (especially the coaching IMO) influenced the result but we should have been 5-6 goals up at 3/4 but failed to capitalise of our dominance.

It’s funny… I’ve always been very critical of the Dempster selection in that role and that time…
Yet I can’t help but wonder what moving Dempster on to Paul Chapman might have yielded.

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Trying to win a premiership with both Raph Clarke and Zac Dawson in the team would have been too hard a task for anyone!


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CURLY wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 9:25am
D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 7:19am
CURLY wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:59pm Rain and three horrendous umpiring calls. Geelong got everything that day.
Who’d have guessed Curly blames the umpires for our loss in 09? 😂😂😂
Proven correct after the fact which is to late. Amazing three clear errors two resulted in Geelong goals the other denied us a shot on goal.
The apologist excuse maker at it again.
The scary thing is I think you believe your own bullsh!t.

Free kicks for 23 against 19.
But the umpires cost us and Geelong got everything :lol:

Half time scores:

Saints:7.7.49
Cats:7.1.43

We missed absolute sitters in the first half when we were dominating.
Schneider from the top of the square, Milne, Montagna etc.


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 12:18pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 9:25am
D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 05 Jul 2022 7:19am
CURLY wrote: Mon 04 Jul 2022 7:59pm Rain and three horrendous umpiring calls. Geelong got everything that day.
Who’d have guessed Curly blames the umpires for our loss in 09? 😂😂😂
Proven correct after the fact which is to late. Amazing three clear errors two resulted in Geelong goals the other denied us a shot on goal.
The apologist excuse maker at it again.
The scary thing is I think you believe your own bullsh!t.

Free kicks for 23 against 19.
But the umpires cost us and Geelong got everything :lol:

Half time scores:

Saints:7.7.49
Cats:7.1.43

We missed absolute sitters in the first half when we were dominating.
Schneider from the top of the square, Milne, Montagna etc.
I mentioned blatant calls that they admitted were wrong. Two goals to Geelong as a result and Sneider was with in kicking distance when he was denied.


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We’d have won if we’d played Sharman.

I blame GT and training services.


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Bad kicking is bad football. Was in 1900, was in 2009 and still is today.
7.7. to 7.1 at half time.

Schneider, Milne, McQualter all missed gimme's to this point. so make it 10.4 to 7.1
In those conditions a 3 1/2 goal lead would have been more than enough.

Everyone talks about individual moments - Raph' holding the Ball ( fisher's fault should have sheppard rather than run on ), the toe poke, Hawkins poster then Ablett's goal from the middle. All irrelevant if we kick goals form 20 out of closer!
The ultimate one which got away.


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older saint wrote: Thu 07 Jul 2022 2:15pm Bad kicking is bad football. Was in 1900, was in 2009 and still is today.
7.7. to 7.1 at half time.

Schneider, Milne, McQualter all missed gimme's to this point. so make it 10.4 to 7.1
In those conditions a 3 1/2 goal lead would have been more than enough.

Everyone talks about individual moments - Raph' holding the Ball ( fisher's fault should have sheppard rather than run on ), the toe poke, Hawkins poster then Ablett's goal from the middle. All irrelevant if we kick goals form 20 out of closer!
The ultimate one which got away.
Nailed it. Casual observers talk about the 2010 drawn Grand Final and that bounce, but is 2009 that was the real missed opportunity.
The best side in the H&A by a big margin and to lead 9.11 to 9.4 at 3/4 time with the easy missed shots was the problem. If those seven scoring shots were a conservative 3.4 instead of 0.7, it's a different story at the end of the game.
Geelong did it the year before against Hawthorn where they had 34 scoring shots to 25. Missed opportunities.
They turned it around the following year, as did we but it wasn't quite enough for us.


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Thompson put Bartel on Lenny.

It was a courageous move and it won them the game.


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