Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971023Post Sainternist »

I think most of us can agree on this:

By trying to shoehorn him into the midfield, St.Kilda has effectively turned Jade Gresham into an injury prone player. It just seems abundantly clear that his body isn’t durable enough to be in the engine room full-time.

FFS, he is - and always was - a small forward!! We all knew this from the time he played his first game for the club!!

So, where to now for his career?
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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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At this point his career is heading towards mediocrity.


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971025Post Sainternist »

The_Dud wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:36pm At this point his career is heading towards mediocrity.
I regret to say, he has come off a bit of a mediocre season.


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971028Post Scollop »

Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971034Post cwrcyn »

Started the year very well. The fact that he's having a PCL reconstruction tells me he's been struggling physically for a while. From training reports, he's been on light duties for a while now..

In my view he is a midfielder.


He's been unfortunate to have had so many serious injuries in the past three seasons. When fit, he's a very creative and dynamic footballer.


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.
Patches of form isn’t good enough. He has incredible natural ability, which has been displayed for the most part in the forward line. Before he did an Achilles, he did a back injury. I can only assume that his body isn’t cut out for the midfield.


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Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:


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cwrcyn wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:52pm
In my view he is a midfielder.
But his body won’t allow it!


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He's a creative forward pocket in a top side.


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Another 1st round draft pick looking as if it will be a another bust


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Post: # 1971050Post cwrcyn »

Wow.. ..I see the pitchforks still haven't been put back in the shed.

Can't believe what I'm reading


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971055Post chook23 »

Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
cwrcyn wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:52pm
In my view he is a midfielder.
But his body won’t allow it!
Does his attitude and work rate allow it???


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971056Post Scollop »

Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:52pm Before he did an Achilles, he did a back injury. I can only assume that his body isn’t cut out for the midfield.
Stop assuming. Every one gets injured at some stage…even the Man o Steele

I think he’s got the goods to play midfield and obviously he’s been hampered by injury in the last few weeks…plus….oh yeah…. you have very bad timing!! Not sure if you were aware of the news of his impending surgery before you started this thread

Gresh kicked 4 goals and starred against Hawthorn earlier this year in our biggest win in 2022. Let’s see if the boys can get a win against the Hawks without him

He was just building his game in the last few years and his numbers were serviceable versus our regular established mids. I wont’t compare his 2021 averages because he only managed 3 games (but if he continued at that same level he would’ve finished top 3 in the best and fairest). The below is a comparison with one of our established regular mids for the current year

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... 1=S&fid2=S
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cwrcyn wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:24pm Wow.. ..I see the pitchforks still haven't been put back in the shed.

Can't believe what I'm reading
Why ? He has been plagued with injury in the last few years & after a promising start to 2022 he has been ordinary when we really needed him to deliver . It may be the case that he was carrying an injury but why would you think supporters would not question his performance ?


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He's been unlucky with injury and fallen victim to what I see as our biggest problem - we just can't seem to develop our players. They come in pretty good, interesting, exciting, whatevs, showing a bit of something... But they don't get better. I can only point to Sinclair and DMac as genuine improvers and, forgive me, but they probably received less attention from the club because they arrived unheralded and perhaps with less natural ability than many others who have only gone backwards.


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Post: # 1971089Post Zed »

Where does he play in a team with a strong midfield?
Small forward with an occasional run in the middle - a little bit like Cyril did , and similar to Rankine at the GC now.


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Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:34pm
Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:52pm Before he did an Achilles, he did a back injury. I can only assume that his body isn’t cut out for the midfield.
Stop assuming. Every one gets injured at some stage…even the Man o Steele

I think he’s got the goods to play midfield and obviously he’s been hampered by injury in the last few weeks…plus….oh yeah…. you have very bad timing!! Not sure if you were aware of the news of his impending surgery before you started this thread
Sure, everyone gets injured at some point in their career, but Gresham has now become injury prone in the space of three years. During that time, he has become a full-time midfielder. Come on! This is no coincidence. He simply doesn’t have the durability to play as a full-time midfielder. Sure, we can persist and run the guy’s career into ground. And the Hawthorn game you speak of was early in the season. About a dozen games later, his body is cooked. Gee, I wonder why?


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SaintPav wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:
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He’s a forward who can go into the midfield

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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 11:37pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:
You again! How’s it hanging, troll man?
😂 You are slow.


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:18am
Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 11:37pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:
You again! How’s it hanging, troll man?
😂 You are slow.
That’s because I don’t live on here, like you do, troll man!

Anyway, happy trolling!


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

Post: # 1971100Post SaintPav »

Sainternist wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:22am
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:18am
Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 11:37pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:
You again! How’s it hanging, troll man?
😂 You are slow.
That’s because I don’t live on here, like you do, troll man!

Anyway, happy trolling!
You said you agreed with me and now you’re having a crack.

Make up your mind. 😂

Great 2 cheap shot threads that you started by the way on 2 injured players.

A real supporter you are.

Sensitive too.

Not harsh at all.

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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:28am
Sainternist wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:22am
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:18am
Sainternist wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 11:37pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:54pm
Scollop wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 7:42pm Not easy coming back from an achilles injury and I think he displayed some very good form in patches this year.

He put in a good preseason last year and was one of the reasons we were travelling so well early in 2022

He has the ability and I believe also the drive and ambition to get better as a footballer and he just needs some luck and another big preseason.
Patches of form ain’t good enough, Scollop.

Get with it. :roll:
You again! How’s it hanging, troll man?
😂 You are slow.
That’s because I don’t live on here, like you do, troll man!

Anyway, happy trolling!
You said you agreed with me and now you’re having a crack.

Make up your mind. 😂

Great 2 cheap shot threads that you started by the way on 2 injured players.

A real supporter you are.

Sensitive too.

Not harsh at all.

👍
I agreed with you on one point and then you went and got kunty. Look, I’m not conversing with you on here any longer. More than happy to talk in person, however. Otherwise, sod off!


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Re: Gresham is NOT a midfielder

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Sainternist wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:34am
Look, I’m not conversing with you on here any longer.

More than happy to talk in person, however.

Otherwise, sod off!

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Are you sure?!

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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:37am
Sainternist wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 12:34am
Look, I’m not conversing with you on here any longer.

More than happy to talk in person, however.

Otherwise, sod off!

:o

Are you sure?!

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I take that back. Go and drop ya dacks and get f***ed, arsehole!

Couldn’t care less if I get banned on here, with pieces of s*** like you dragging it down to the sewer!

And one last time - GET f***ed !!

Over and out.
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