Match Thread Saints v Suns Round 18 2023

[Yorkeys]

Looks as if RTB isn't the "messiah" after all? (asking for a friend)

I thought you were one of these stick fat type supporters?
Glass half full type??
18 games in….Lyon hasn’t fixed 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite so he’s no good??
Good to have you in the trenches

Fixed? He's dug the hole deeper, quicker and put us back at least 2 years.
He cannot motivate the players, can't discipline execution. Ratts couldn't, Richo couldn't. And he is no different.
His commentary will however be first class.
I will renew next year, but I know a car crash when I see it.
Only dropping 7 for next week will get me to think it may not be hopeless for the foreseeable and Ross isnt a fraud. Or unless Ross resigns.

Ok great
Who the 7 you bringing in next week to rejuvenate us in 1 week?

The point is dropping some of todays rabble. Anyway: Higgins, Clark, Hayes, Campbell, Bytel, Heath, Paton, that's off the top. Is Ross fit? Who else are on the list in the Bs?
The non performers are banking on there not being replacements. They need a wake up signal.

[Jacks Back]

11 scoring shots against a side that was 14th lol

Well….welcome to the bottom 4 for the next 10 years.
Deserve to be kicked out of the comp (and would be if the AFL didn’t prop them up since they can’t get their affairs in order).

You sound annoyed

Broken record year after year.
How can a club get it so wrong all the time regardless of personnel in charge??

Look at Collingwood’s side. How is it possible we both have the same salary cap?

It’s just pathetic and most supporters don’t give a f***.
Probly the most unprofessional sporting club in the world.

Most supporters don’t give a f*** ? Don’t kid yourself

He’s gone nuclear Firey stand back

Good advice. I’ll get my hose out

[SaintPav]

We are broken

To many injuries to get any real connection going

Just playing like a bunch of individuals .... and bad ones at that

Been mentioned before but we are a bottom 4 side currently

Yet we are very likely not to get the draft rewards of a bottom 4 side ...... so we will continue to sit in no man's land for a while yet

Hawks & North will likely go past us soon due to their wealth of young talent and our aging broken mids needing to be replaced ..... couple of years of hurt coming up

Frightening and plausible prospect.

[shanegrambeau]

Jjakey is pissed off

[The Fireman]

11 scoring shots against a side that was 14th lol

Well….welcome to the bottom 4 for the next 10 years.
Deserve to be kicked out of the comp (and would be if the AFL didn’t prop them up since they can’t get their affairs in order).

You sound annoyed

Broken record year after year.
How can a club get it so wrong all the time regardless of personnel in charge??

Look at Collingwood’s side. How is it possible we both have the same salary cap?

It’s just pathetic and most supporters don’t give a f***.
Probly the most unprofessional sporting club in the world.

Most supporters don’t give a f*** ? Don’t kid yourself

He’s gone nuclear Firey stand back

Good advice. I’ll get my hose out

relax it's what I do

[thejiggingsaint]

Looks as if RTB isn't the "messiah" after all? (asking for a friend)

I thought you were one of these stick fat type supporters?
Glass half full type??
18 games in….Lyon hasn’t fixed 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite so he’s no good??
Good to have you in the trenches

Cheers Colleague! Just simply asking the question mate. But if it makes you feel better, get personal, doesn't bother me too much.

[thejiggingsaint]

In relation to Ross Lyon, I'm simply expressing an opinion that for all the hype surrounding his "Messiah-like" coaching skills, we are (after a strong start) back to the exact position after 17 rounds that we were LAST season (9-8). As for Lyon "fixing 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite", well I think it's a valid question to ask whether RL still has "what it takes" in the CURRENT AFL. I'm NOT saying (as Teflon seems to assume I am) that he's "no good" Simply that a side coached by a caretaker gave us a fine old touch up yesterday and that it would seem to my old eyes that Ross is far from being a "messiah". Look, it's no secret that I didn't want the bloke back, but the club have appointed him, and so I'll back and support him and the players to get it right eventually. But in my own defence, I do believe that one can give support and yet still call for answers as to our coaching and playing performances.

[The Fireman]

I still reckon he has what it takes to move us forward and I get the feeling there will be no more mr nice guy.

I am glad the club has appointed him.

[Teflon]

Looks as if RTB isn't the "messiah" after all? (asking for a friend)

I thought you were one of these stick fat type supporters?
Glass half full type??
18 games in….Lyon hasn’t fixed 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite so he’s no good??
Good to have you in the trenches

Cheers Colleague! Just simply asking the question mate. But if it makes you feel better, get personal, doesn't bother me too much.

Personal?
I thought I just asked a question back ?

[thejiggingsaint]

I still reckon he has what it takes to move us forward and I get the feeling there will be no more mr nice guy.

I am glad the club has appointed him.

Fair comment Mr Fireman I'm prepared to back and support the Coach - WHOEVER they may be, because at the end of the day, it's a CLUB appointment, and I support the club. But as I've said earlier mate, "support" doesn't always equate with not asking questions or raising concerns.

[Teflon]

In relation to Ross Lyon, I'm simply expressing an opinion that for all the hype surrounding his "Messiah-like" coaching skills, we are (after a strong start) back to the exact position after 17 rounds that we were LAST season (9-8). As for Lyon "fixing 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite", well I think it's a valid question to ask whether RL still has "what it takes" in the CURRENT AFL. I'm NOT saying (as Teflon seems to assume I am) that he's "no good" Simply that a side coached by a caretaker gave us a fine old touch up yesterday and that it would seem to my old eyes that Ross is far from being a "messiah". Look, it's no secret that I didn't want the bloke back, but the club have appointed him, and so I'll back and support him and the players to get it right eventually. But in my own defence, I do believe that one can give support and yet still call for answers as to our coaching and playing performances.

18 games into his first year ???????????????????
I mean give him Rattebs 3 years or hell Richo’s 6 but 18 games in and you think you’ve seen enough to “ask the question”
Can you see the issue some might have with that ?
I suspect if it was anyone else other than Ross Lyon appointed we wouldn’t be even having this discussion
But people’s personal bias is well n truly on display
I feel it’s almost, for some, Ok if he fails …cause that proves the point he’s a Lyon cheating pr!ck as some on here keep telling us
Meanwhile…back at St Kilda Premiership central - 1 flag in 150 years rolls on..,
Bizarre

[thejiggingsaint]

Looks as if RTB isn't the "messiah" after all? (asking for a friend)

I thought you were one of these stick fat type supporters?
Glass half full type??
18 games in….Lyon hasn’t fixed 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite so he’s no good??
Good to have you in the trenches

Cheers Colleague! Just simply asking the question mate. But if it makes you feel better, get personal, doesn't bother me too much.

Personal?
I thought I just asked a question back ?

BOLLOCKS!! and you know it!!! I refer to your snide comment re: "the trenches" smartarse!

[Teflon]

Looks as if RTB isn't the "messiah" after all? (asking for a friend)

I thought you were one of these stick fat type supporters?
Glass half full type??
18 games in….Lyon hasn’t fixed 10 years of Richo, Ratten Shiite so he’s no good??
Good to have you in the trenches

Cheers Colleague! Just simply asking the question mate. But if it makes you feel better, get personal, doesn't bother me too much.

Personal?
I thought I just asked a question back ?

BOLLOCKS!! and you know it!!! I refer to your snide comment re: "the trenches" smartarse!

That’s not a snide or sneaky comment that’s a fact
18 games in and you want to be question the new coach year 1??
I stand by the comment comrade I think I’d be looking for other foot soldiers in the tench with that level of support..

[saynta]

I can't believe, but should, that some posters are still trying to put the blame for yesterday's disgraceful performance on two previous coaches,.

But I guess you have to have a fall back, fall guy when your heroes f*** up.

[Teflon]

I can't believe, but should, that some posters are still trying to put the blame for yesterday's disgraceful performance on two previous coaches,.

But I guess you have to have a fall back, fall guy when your heroes f*** up.

Reported for baiting

[The Fireman]

I still reckon he has what it takes to move us forward and I get the feeling there will be no more mr nice guy.

I am glad the club has appointed him.

Fair comment Mr Fireman I'm prepared to back and support the Coach - WHOEVER they may be, because at the end of the day, it's a CLUB appointment, and I support the club. But as I've said earlier mate, "support" doesn't always equate with not asking questions or raising concerns.

crikey mate how many coaches have we seen ?
Loved bomba, alves, and GT , and I reckon Ross has that x factor we need as a coach
Gellie, Jewell, Jezza, baldock,Richo ..watters didn't have that x factor
mind you used to love listening to Baldock talk.

and yep we cop what the club throws at us and of course we can question it, but at the end of the day we support our beloved saints come hell or high water
have to admit the older I get the anger is waning but the frustration remains a constant

[Scollop]

I

It's expected when a young team is travelling interstate

The weather didn't suit us. The roof was off

[Teflon]

I

It's expected when a young team is travelling interstate

The weather didn't suit us. The roof was off

Finally!
Onboard
Welcome

[saynta]

I still reckon he has what it takes to move us forward and I get the feeling there will be no more mr nice guy.

I am glad the club has appointed him.

Fair comment Mr Fireman I'm prepared to back and support the Coach - WHOEVER they may be, because at the end of the day, it's a CLUB appointment, and I support the club. But as I've said earlier mate, "support" doesn't always equate with not asking questions or raising concerns.

crikey mate how many coaches have we seen ?
Loved bomba, alves, and GT , and I reckon Ross has that x factor we need as a coach
Gellie, Jewell, Jezza, baldock,Richo ..watters didn't have that x factor
mind you used to love listening to Baldock talk.

and yep we cop what the club throws at us and of course we can question it, but at the end of the day we support our beloved saints come hell or high water
have to admit the older I get the anger is waning but the frustration remains a constant

I am happy to admit that I have never been a Lyon's fan . I don't like the man and was upset when he was reappointed to a club that he had previously deceived and walked out on. Nevertheless I was prepared to stay uncritical until I saw him repeat the flaws that were obvious the first time around.

To wave a white flag at this stage of the season when we are still looking at a finals berth is unforgiveable and smacks of a person more willing to protect his reputation as a coach than trying to correct things.

I can only hope the president can get on top of this. Failure is not on his agenda.

[saynta]

I can't believe, but should, that some posters are still trying to put the blame for yesterday's disgraceful performance on two previous coaches,.

But I guess you have to have a fall back, fall guy when your heroes f*** up.

Reported for baiting

Someone trying to stifle another poster' views on a game by claiming it's baiting is something hopefully the mods should ignore. One would hope they are awake to such tactics

[The Fireman]

I still reckon he has what it takes to move us forward and I get the feeling there will be no more mr nice guy.

I am glad the club has appointed him.

Fair comment Mr Fireman I'm prepared to back and support the Coach - WHOEVER they may be, because at the end of the day, it's a CLUB appointment, and I support the club. But as I've said earlier mate, "support" doesn't always equate with not asking questions or raising concerns.

crikey mate how many coaches have we seen ?
Loved bomba, alves, and GT , and I reckon Ross has that x factor we need as a coach
Gellie, Jewell, Jezza, baldock,Richo ..watters didn't have that x factor
mind you used to love listening to Baldock talk.

and yep we cop what the club throws at us and of course we can question it, but at the end of the day we support our beloved saints come hell or high water
have to admit the older I get the anger is waning but the frustration remains a constant

I am happy to admit that I have never been a Lyon's fan . I don't like the man and was upset when he was reappointed to a club that he had previously deceived and walked out on. Nevertheless I was prepared to stay uncritical until I saw him repeat the flaws that were obvious the first time around.

To wave a white flag at this stage of the season when we are still looking at a finals berth is unforgiveable and smacks of a person more willing to protect his reputation as a coach than trying to correct things.

I can only hope the president can get on top of this. Failure is not on his agenda.

can you enlighten me on the white flag comment ?

[Yorkeys]

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can you enlighten me on the white flag comment ?
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Can be found behind the goal posts. There is a matching set each end.
When the opposition scores it's/they are waved.
Sometimes the set at our end is waved first, but more often they just mimic the other ends 15 or so times a game.
It's quite comical to those new to the game but a necessary tradition.
To wave the white flag means a score may be registered and a advert break can be taken.