The coach, walking things back....a bit.

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The coach, walking things back....a bit.

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Anger as a motivation tool may provide a small sugar hit to get a performance improvement however it is rarely sustainable.

Those stinging words by Lyon may avert a disastrous loss this weekend however I’d need to see a much larger sample size of sustained performance well beyond this weekend to change my mind that this list isn’t going to take us far.


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Yeah a bigger sample size


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The Fireman wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 2:01pm Yeah a bigger sample size
I thought you only got sample bags at the Melbourne or Sydney Shows


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I got no walking things back from that all
What I got was an honest appraisal that if we don’t stop stumbling and fumbling we won’t and don’t deserve to play finals
I also got ownership from the senior coach that the narrative around the saints has been directly impacted by his messaging
He owns that - no problem
I’m almost disappointed we are not playing Melbourne this week
I expect a response
The week later is where I watch with interest
Can they sustain it
That said who really cares ? I mean the list is middling ….does it matter ?


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Teflon wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 3:02pm I got no walking things back from that all
What I got was an honest appraisal that if we don’t stop stumbling and fumbling we won’t and don’t deserve to play finals
I also got ownership from the senior coach that the narrative around the saints has been directly impacted by his messaging
He owns that - no problem
I’m almost disappointed we are not playing Melbourne this week
I expect a response
The week later is where I watch with interest
Can they sustain it
That said who really cares ? I mean the list is middling ….does it matter ?
The thing you have to remember is it’s all about exploration, without exploration you can’t explore.

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Teflon wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 3:02pm I got no walking things back from that all
What I got was an honest appraisal that if we don’t stop stumbling and fumbling we won’t and don’t deserve to play finals
I also got ownership from the senior coach that the narrative around the saints has been directly impacted by his messaging
He owns that - no problem
I’m almost disappointed we are not playing Melbourne this week
I expect a response
The week later is where I watch with interest
Can they sustain it
That said who really cares ? I mean the list is middling ….does it matter ?
I totally agree.

Good friend stab you in the front and that’s what he’s doing. Boys gotta lift or we don’t deserve anything.


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I think a couple of posters didn't learn much in their English Comprehension classes by the looks of it.


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I cringe every time someone uses the phrase “sample size” in these contexts.


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Re: The coach, walking things back....a bit.

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TheGreatZacsby wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 4:26pm
Teflon wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 3:02pm I got no walking things back from that all
What I got was an honest appraisal that if we don’t stop stumbling and fumbling we won’t and don’t deserve to play finals
I also got ownership from the senior coach that the narrative around the saints has been directly impacted by his messaging
He owns that - no problem
I’m almost disappointed we are not playing Melbourne this week
I expect a response
The week later is where I watch with interest
Can they sustain it
That said who really cares ? I mean the list is middling ….does it matter ?
I totally agree.

Good friend stab you in the front and that’s what he’s doing. Boys gotta lift or we don’t deserve anything.
Totally - he’s brutal and not a Molly coddle like Ratten but this joint needs a shake
10 years of mediocrity time to shake it off


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Teflon wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 6:22pm
TheGreatZacsby wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 4:26pm
Teflon wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 3:02pm I got no walking things back from that all
What I got was an honest appraisal that if we don’t stop stumbling and fumbling we won’t and don’t deserve to play finals
I also got ownership from the senior coach that the narrative around the saints has been directly impacted by his messaging
He owns that - no problem
I’m almost disappointed we are not playing Melbourne this week
I expect a response
The week later is where I watch with interest
Can they sustain it
That said who really cares ? I mean the list is middling ….does it matter ?
I totally agree.

Good friend stab you in the front and that’s what he’s doing. Boys gotta lift or we don’t deserve anything.
Totally - he’s brutal and not a Molly coddle like Ratten but this joint needs a shake
10 years of mediocrity time to shake it off
I think Saintsational has been around longer than that.


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Vortex wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 1:56pm Anger as a motivation tool may provide a small sugar hit to get a performance improvement however it is rarely sustainable.

Those stinging words by Lyon may avert a disastrous loss this weekend however I’d need to see a much larger sample size of sustained performance well beyond this weekend to change my mind that this list isn’t going to take us far.
You use a lot of words to say nothing.


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saynta wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 5:24pm I think a couple of posters didn't learn much in their English Comprehension classes by the looks of it.
I think you're projecting.

There is nothing in that presser suggesting that Lyon is "walking things back", unless we have a completely different interpretation of what "walking things back" means.

You might want to give examples of what Ross says that you could construe as "walking things back".


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 6:19pm I cringe every time someone uses the phrase “sample size” in these contexts.
It is a bit nonsensical.


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The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 6:19pm I cringe every time someone uses the phrase “sample size” in these contexts.
It is a bit nonsensical.
Particularly from someone who knows nothing of statistical mathematics.
"Yeah, just a walking
Just a walking
Uh, just a walking
Now, if you don't know how to do it
I'll show you how to walk the dog"
Com on com on,
yeah the Comeback...... walking back"
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The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:04pm
saynta wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 5:24pm I think a couple of posters didn't learn much in their English Comprehension classes by the looks of it.
I think you're projecting.

There is nothing in that presser suggesting that Lyon is "walking things back", unless we have a completely different interpretation of what "walking things back" means.

You might want to give examples of what Ross says that you could construe as "walking things back".
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The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 6:58pm
Vortex wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 1:56pm Anger as a motivation tool may provide a small sugar hit to get a performance improvement however it is rarely sustainable.

Those stinging words by Lyon may avert a disastrous loss this weekend however I’d need to see a much larger sample size of sustained performance well beyond this weekend to change my mind that this list isn’t going to take us far.
You use a lot of words to say nothing.
Thanks for the feedback, I try to keep the words to around 4 letters but let me know if that is still too challenging for you and I'll prepare a Little Golden Book translation for you with pictures.


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Vortex wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:42pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 6:58pm
Vortex wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 1:56pm Anger as a motivation tool may provide a small sugar hit to get a performance improvement however it is rarely sustainable.

Those stinging words by Lyon may avert a disastrous loss this weekend however I’d need to see a much larger sample size of sustained performance well beyond this weekend to change my mind that this list isn’t going to take us far.
You use a lot of words to say nothing.
Thanks for the feedback, I try to keep the words to around 4 letters but let me know if that is still too challenging for you and I'll prepare a Little Golden Book translation for you with pictures.
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Yorkeys wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:16pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 6:19pm I cringe every time someone uses the phrase “sample size” in these contexts.
It is a bit nonsensical.
Particularly from someone who knows nothing of statistical mathematics.
"Yeah, just a walking
Just a walking
Uh, just a walking
Now, if you don't know how to do it
I'll show you how to walk the dog"
Com on com on,
yeah the Comeback...... walking back"
Ross L and the Gurus, live at the Palais. Comeback Exploration Tour 2023. September dates TBC.
As mentioned by G Train, the statement is nonsensical.

The sample size refers to a subset of the entire population used in a broader census. Instead, people should say that they are searching for more occurrences of X, as this has no connection to the sample size.

It is crucial for everyone to grasp the fundamentals of basic statistics for their own benefit.


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SaintPav wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 8:57pm
Yorkeys wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:16pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Sat 22 Jul 2023 7:06pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 21 Jul 2023 6:19pm I cringe every time someone uses the phrase “sample size” in these contexts.
It is a bit nonsensical.
Particularly from someone who knows nothing of statistical mathematics.
"Yeah, just a walking
Just a walking
Uh, just a walking
Now, if you don't know how to do it
I'll show you how to walk the dog"
Com on com on,
yeah the Comeback...... walking back"
Ross L and the Gurus, live at the Palais. Comeback Exploration Tour 2023. September dates TBC.
As mentioned by G Train, the statement is nonsensical.

The sample size refers to a subset of the entire population used in a broader census. Instead, people should say that they are searching for more occurrences of X, as this has no connection to the sample size.

It is crucial for everyone to grasp the fundamentals of basic statistics for their own benefit.
Yes yes we get it…
You …want desperately to be seen as intelligent
It’s coming off as insecure….
I’ve seen a big enough sample size to comment


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What language is this “walking things back”?
Seems to come from the same lexicon as learnings, calling out, reaching out and escalating matters!

Wank talk, or I’m just an out of touch boomer!


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whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:29am What language is this “walking things back”?
Seems to come from the same lexicon as learnings, calling out, reaching out and escalating matters!

Wank talk, or I’m just an out of touch boomer!
Same lexicon as exploration, audit, mulligan, cobbling the cobblers and restumping.


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Vortex wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 1:02pm
whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:29am What language is this “walking things back”?
Seems to come from the same lexicon as learnings, calling out, reaching out and escalating matters!

Wank talk, or I’m just an out of touch boomer!
Same lexicon as exploration, audit, mulligan, cobbling the cobblers and restumping.
So it isn’t just me being out of touch with 2023 speak?


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whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 1:13pm
Vortex wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 1:02pm
whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 23 Jul 2023 11:29am What language is this “walking things back”?
Seems to come from the same lexicon as learnings, calling out, reaching out and escalating matters!

Wank talk, or I’m just an out of touch boomer!
Same lexicon as exploration, audit, mulligan, cobbling the cobblers and restumping.
So it isn’t just me being out of touch with 2023 speak?
Not at all, if it helps maybe try and use the phrase “sample size” every now and then to help you blend in.

And instead of thinking of todays competition between two football teams as a “game”, try and think of it as an “audit”.


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