Reality

[Scollop]

Maybe the mids have spoken. They don't enjoy the dour defensive style and they'd prefer to hunt the footy (rather than the focus being to stop your opponent)

Maybe the whole team wants to play a more attractive and attacking style of footy. It's more enjoyable

Vote of no confidence in the coach?

[maverick]

Really , really you are happy Tony74 or just a publicist

If the plan was to finish 9-12 then mission achieved . Well done , pat on the back, how wonderful are we
Many saints supporters had much much higher expectations exspecially with our great start. We watched basically an inactive selection changes to poor results, we watched stagnant game plans and within games as teams worked us out. We see players in at Sandy week knocking on the door but not given as 2nd thought

Lets defend but deflect . Nice Trump move

Pathetic on so many fronts
Leave out the political BS and take it elsewhere

[magnifisaint]

The reality is that this team isn't good enough.

[Teflon]

Maybe the mids have spoken. They don't enjoy the dour defensive style and they'd prefer to hunt the footy (rather than the focus being to stop your opponent)

Maybe the whole team wants to play a more attractive and attacking style of footy. It's more enjoyable

Vote of no confidence in the coach?

Oh ffs
It’s the host of Survivor…

[Teflon]

We have not been out of the eight all year. Yep, I agree we probably won’t last there but honestly how many of you after Round 21 would have thought that. We have a group of new coaches and a new game plan. There will be a turnover of players at season end as the coaching panel mould the squad to its potential. I believe we are building, most so called experts ( and no doubt many of you) had us bottom four. I haven’t got rose coloured glasses, I’m just being realistic. Again I have to emphasise we have not been out of the 8 all year. I reckon the club has been enormous. FQF

Thanks Tony
Most sensible fans know it’s been a tough year re injuries that we didn’t have anywhere remotely near as bad last year
So we have experimented….kids up forward …in midfield and we’ve uncovered a few
Let’s hope the coaching group also keep the pressure on themselves….I’m not 100% sold on Harvs as forward coach..

[saintsRrising]

If you think Ross is happy with that performance you don’t know him. He doesn’t rave and rant but he’s not cuddly. He is honest and to the point. He takes no prisoners and knows what he wants. And if you don’t deliver you know. Trust me

RTB needs to back it up with action during this trade period.

Too many players choose when to apply effort.

Too many players are poor with the ball (both skill wise and decision wise).

If there is not significant change then we will be just wasting our time in 2024. We will not be building, just dithering.


I like a lot of our youth, but the older players we brought into improve our list have mainly been a waste and or hardly have gotten on the park. Hill was fool's gold. Cost us a lot and the way it is heading Acre's the steak knives we through in with the trade will have deliver more value to Freo/Blues, that Hill will have done to for us.

[saintsRrising]

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[Scollop]

If you think Ross is happy with that performance you don’t know him. He doesn’t rave and rant but he’s not cuddly. He is honest and to the point. He takes no prisoners and knows what he wants. And if you don’t deliver you know. Trust me

RTB needs to back it up with action during this trade period.

Too many players choose when to apply effort.

Too many players are poor with the ball (both skill wise and decision wise).

If there is not significant change then we will be just wasting our time in 2024. We will not be building, just dithering.


I like a lot of our youth, but the older players we brought into improve our list have mainly been a waste and or hardly have gotten on the park. Hill was fool's gold. Cost us a lot and the way it is heading Acre's the steak knives we through in with the trade will have deliver more value to Freo/Blues, that Hill will have done to for us.

The common denominator in our woes for the last 5 years has been Simon Lethlean (he was appointed in December 2017)

Let's hope in 2024 we aren't looking to save the short term careers of Lethlean and Lyon. Let's hope they don't bring in another 27/28 year old former premiership player with a full tummy or a broken former All Australian struggling with injury or off field issues

[Saint2]

Listening to Lyon's presser last night, and he is still putting on the fuzzy warm front, but I have been around long enough to pick up that he was pretty pi#@ed off with the result. I could read between the lines that he was eluding to the guys putting the cue away at half time thinking they had done enough, and made mention of costly turnovers.

[Teflon]

Listening to Lyon's presser last night, and he is still putting on the fuzzy warm front, but I have been around long enough to pick up that he was pretty pi#@ed off with the result. I could read between the lines that he was eluding to the guys putting the cue away at half time thinking they had done enough, and made mention of costly turnovers.

To me it just read like
1. Forwards - ok, can build on that
2. Defence - good under constant pressure
3. Mids - can’t win games with this schizophrenic lot…

He apparently made mention of it pre season in that infamous recording…he knows
Captain? Not a leader need a new one …Steele just another mid cog

[saintsRrising]

If you think Ross is happy with that performance you don’t know him. He doesn’t rave and rant but he’s not cuddly. He is honest and to the point. He takes no prisoners and knows what he wants. And if you don’t deliver you know. Trust me

RTB needs to back it up with action during this trade period.

Too many players choose when to apply effort.

Too many players are poor with the ball (both skill wise and decision wise).

If there is not significant change then we will be just wasting our time in 2024. We will not be building, just dithering.


I like a lot of our youth, but the older players we brought into improve our list have mainly been a waste and or hardly have gotten on the park. Hill was fool's gold. Cost us a lot and the way it is heading Acre's the steak knives we through in with the trade will have deliver more value to Freo/Blues, that Hill will have done to for us.

The common denominator in our woes for the last 5 years has been Simon Lethlean (he was appointed in December 2017)

Let's hope in 2024 we aren't looking to save the short term careers of Lethlean and Lyon. Let's hope they don't bring in another 27/28 year old former premiership player with a full tummy or a broken former All Australian struggling with injury or off field issues

Yes it is only the last few drafts where our recruiting has been AFL standard.

Though Cordy gaining a 3 year contract still boggles my mind. Though at least there was no trade cost for him.

[The G Train Legacy]

Think there might be quite a few who won’t be there next year. Not a bad thing too.

If I had the cash - I’d happily pay for Gresham to be sacked tonight.

Irony is that Gresh had one of his better games of the season, but still not good enough.

[The G Train Legacy]

Listening to Lyon's presser last night, and he is still putting on the fuzzy warm front, but I have been around long enough to pick up that he was pretty pi#@ed off with the result. I could read between the lines that he was eluding to the guys putting the cue away at half time thinking they had done enough, and made mention of costly turnovers.

To me it just read like
1. Forwards - ok, can build on that
2. Defence - good under constant pressure
3. Mids - can’t win games with this schizophrenic lot…

He apparently made mention of it pre season in that infamous recording…he knows
Captain? Not a leader need a new one …Steele just another mid cog

I've got a feeling Cal Wilkie will end up Captain.

[The G Train Legacy]

Can not cop that you mentioned New Game Plan Tony

We were playing better start of year

1 goal after halftime

I don't have rose coloured glasses either

No, actually our first half was better than any of the first four games we won. So was most of the game last week.

[n1ck]

Adam Schneider and Sean Dempster worked out pretty well for Ross last time...

But don’t recruit anyone from swans ffs

[Teflon]

Can not cop that you mentioned New Game Plan Tony

We were playing better start of year

1 goal after halftime

I don't have rose coloured glasses either

No, actually our first half was better than any of the first four games we won. So was most of the game last week.

That’s what surprised Lyon I think
As he said in presser…not much changed but clearly other side went up a gear and we just couldn’t go with them
That tells me we need talent

[samoht]

Or maybe Voss the real boss gave a stirring half-time address and continued inspiring and encouraging his team from the boundary line/interchange bench, and remained standing and vocal, transferring that energy to his players, while Ross was sitting down comfortably and cosily in the coach's box?
Maybe that's where they found their extra gear?

I'm kidding, of course - we do need to recruit talent/do some mythical recruiting.

[Teflon]

Voss ….inspiring? I knew you were joking at that point!!

[samoht]

Voss ….inspiring? I knew you were joking at that point!!

Well, relative to RTB, VTRB was/must have been. He wouldn't have been standing in the cold, otherwise?

[Bruce G McAbee]

So, speaking of recruiting, did Paddy Dow make a good impression yesterday?

[saynta]

So, speaking of recruiting, did Paddy Dow make a good impression yesterday?

Yep but not as much as Acres, mores the pity.

[saynta]

We have not been out of the eight all year. Yep, I agree we probably won’t last there but honestly how many of you after Round 21 would have thought that. We have a group of new coaches and a new game plan. There will be a turnover of players at season end as the coaching panel mould the squad to its potential. I believe we are building, most so called experts ( and no doubt many of you) had us bottom four. I haven’t got rose coloured glasses, I’m just being realistic. Again I have to emphasise we have not been out of the 8 all year. I reckon the club has been enormous. FQF

Thanks Tony
Most sensible fans know it’s been a tough year re injuries that we didn’t have anywhere remotely near as bad last year
So we have experimented….kids up forward …in midfield and we’ve uncovered a few
Let’s hope the coaching group also keep the pressure on themselves….I’m not 100% sold on Harvs as forward coach..

Really ?And while we are in the mood to knock our coaches, I am not sold on RTB as a head coach .One should never forget that he lost four premiership matches including an unloseable one against the cats.

[saynta]

If you think Ross is happy with that performance you don’t know him. He doesn’t rave and rant but he’s not cuddly. He is honest and to the point. He takes no prisoners and knows what he wants. And if you don’t deliver you know. Trust me

RTB needs to back it up with action during this trade period.

Too many players choose when to apply effort.

Too many players are poor with the ball (both skill wise and decision wise).

If there is not significant change then we will be just wasting our time in 2024. We will not be building, just dithering.


I like a lot of our youth, but the older players we brought into improve our list have mainly been a waste and or hardly have gotten on the park. Hill was fool's gold. Cost us a lot and the way it is heading Acre's the steak knives we through in with the trade will have deliver more value to Freo/Blues, that Hill will have done to for us.

The common denominator in our woes for the last 5 years has been Simon Lethlean (he was appointed in December 2017)

Let's hope in 2024 we aren't looking to save the short term careers of Lethlean and Lyon. Let's hope they don't bring in another 27/28 year old former premiership player with a full tummy or a broken former All Australian struggling with injury or off field issues

Yes it is only the last few drafts where our recruiting has been AFL standard.

Though Cordy gaining a 3 year contract still boggles my mind. Though at least there was no trade cost for him.

Cordy isn't working out. I thought he would. Big disappointment.

[shanegrambeau]

Carlton were doing fine in 2022 and cruising towards a finals finish only to stumble and crash out towards the end. Sounds familiar?

[Saintmatt]

I think playing King messed us up a bit. I preferred last weeks set up.

I've been saying the same thing for ages. How could playing a generational 200cm forward make you a worse team eh? Only at St Kilda ...