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Post: # 2027300Post lewdogs »

Imagine dropping Phillipou now after playing every game. The kid is made for finals and is a huge part of our future. I think we've seen what Ross thinks of Billings.


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Post: # 2027307Post Otiman »

Billings is being played as a forward in the 2's. I expect if Pou is underdone at any point he will play.


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I would be tempted to rest Matias this week.

He could be a weapon this finals series.


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Post: # 2027365Post skeptic »

If Billings gets the nod, I’d rather it be for Gresh.

I like Gresh but he makes a lot of mistakes which is fine if he kicks those clutch goals. Didn’t get the job done on Saturday in that regard.
Higgins made some mistakes too but still walked away with 2 majors.

Be interesting to see


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lewdogs wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:47am Imagine dropping Phillipou now after playing every game. The kid is made for finals and is a huge part of our future.
I would play Hayes instead of Poo. Poo to Sub.

Hayes has shown that he is a finals player.

Play him this week to see how he goes and if his touch and match conditioning is up to it. If he does not play well enough, Poo comes back in for the finals.

If Hayes does fire up he could make a huge difference to our forward line.


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I think.Brisbane's defence and midfield might offer a bit more than what Hayes faced on the weekend, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Hayes get a run.


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Ross Lyon is like a “second father” to Phillipou…doubt he’ll be out of the side.
The kid will get a breather in bye week before our first final


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skeptic wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:57pm If Billings gets the nod, I’d rather it be for Gresh.

I like Gresh but he makes a lot of mistakes which is fine if he kicks those clutch goals. Didn’t get the job done on Saturday in that regard.
Higgins made some mistakes too but still walked away with 2 majors.

Be interesting to see
100% this!

Phillipou plays for the betterment of our future.

Gresham plays for the betterment of his trade value.

Billings plays for the best chance of winning now.

Protect our future & hope Gresham protects our now and his future.

Unfortunately JB will be the collateral. Pretty average for him to be labelled lazy and soft.


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Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
You are correct...but...

he was a 17 year old when we drafted him and he was still 17 when he started preseason with the Saints last year... :mrgreen: :wink:

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Looking forward to 2025 when he's put on 10kg of muscle and filled out !
He's the future
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Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????


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Post: # 2027484Post Saint2 »

Pou is doing what the coach wants of his senior team regardless of age, and is not carrying injuries- if it was just all about blooding a young player, then Pou would have spent time at Sandy as well. If Sandy Saints such as Billings, who have more experience and plenty of skill, can't get into the senior team, then it's probably a matter of not having his body totally right in Lyon's eyes. I don't see any Saint at Sandy is knocking the door down yet- Hayes might be pushing a bit though, but that's VFL form, and I wouldn't be dropping anyone from last weeks team unless they are injured.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:54am
Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????
I was studying and planning for career in something other than Football .... not sure why being on an AFL LIST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER CAREER PATHS


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
... scratching my ar$e and bumping into things mainly ...


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Devilhead wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 8:05am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:54am
Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????
I was studying and planning for career in something other than Football .... not sure why being on an AFL LIST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER CAREER PATHS
It is not - but were you at the top of your chosen career at 17 - or were you just getting in to it - people are expecting him to be a world beater at 18 (first preseason only just 18)


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Saintmatt wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 1:59pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
... scratching my ar$e and bumping into things mainly ...
LOL - it would be a sight to behold!


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Re: Phillipou

Post: # 2027589Post saintbob »

I was calling for him to be dropped 5-6wks ago too, but clearly RTB is making sure he's gets every opportunity to be exposed to AFL footy which will also include finals.

And to the kids credit he is bobbing up at real important times and doing some freakish things, which makes me wonder just how bloody good this kid will end.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:54am
Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????
I was playing under 19's in the SE Suburban league on Saturdays and for the local U19's YCW team on Sundays.


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saynta wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 8:53pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:54am
Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????
I was playing under 19's in the SE Suburban league on Saturdays and for the local U19's YCW team on Sundays.
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Post: # 2027610Post Devilhead »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:57pm
Devilhead wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 8:05am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:54am
Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 1:51am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:20pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 8:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 7:46pm Phillipou looks lost at CB

I’ve not yet seen him touch the footy at a centre clearance

He’s going to be a fine player

But really, if he wasn’t tagged as a high potential player and was rated on actual output- he’d be criticised

In other words
If Billings, Byrnes, Hill or Gresham were averaging 10ppg and half a goal we’d be calling for them to get dropped.
Agree re the comparison to the other players that said if my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike.

Reality is he is a high potential young player and the others are not- at least not to the same extent.

Fwiw I've seen some pretty clever deft touches and quick hands around the stoppages.
More to the point - If he was born 5 days later - HE WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON AN AFL LIST

We are lucky to have him - and to get him at pick 10.

Put him in this years draft crop and he is a standout.

He is a boy playing against men - give him a proper Pre-season as an 18 yo not a 17 yo and 4 days (at 1/1/23)

What were you guys doing at 17????
He was already 18 at 1/1/23 ..... born in 2004
Yep - you are correct - but what were you doing at 17 - WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED TO AN AFL LIST?????
I was studying and planning for career in something other than Football .... not sure why being on an AFL LIST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER CAREER PATHS
It is not - but were you at the top of your chosen career at 17 - or were you just getting in to it - people are expecting him to be a world beater at 18 (first preseason only just 18)
:lol: .... There wouldn't be one sane St Kilda supporter that would expect Phillipou to be a world beater at 18 .... I doubt anyone is expecting him to be


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SaintPav wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 10:22am I would be tempted to rest Matias this week.

He could be a weapon this finals series.
A pop gun that an opposition can exploit.


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Why do we play him now - because he’s the future?

You don’t get an AFL game because of how good you may become

You get AFL games when you are good

Selection integrity- pick the best player - here and now!



We are about to embark on a tough away game against Brisbane and then a finals game

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poo has a big career ahead of him..wouldnt worry me if I didnt see him again until next year.


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Getting Finals experience into this kid now could prove invaluable.


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Post: # 2027703Post Saint2 »

IluvHarvey wrote: Fri 25 Aug 2023 12:36pm Getting Finals experience into this kid now could prove invaluable.
Playing in a premiership Saints team would be great for a young first-year player..we can only hope


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