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Zak Jones

Post: # 2033003Post B.M »

Offered a new contract

Hopefully he gets his body right!


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Post: # 2033004Post bobmurray »

Yes, hopefully he doesn't spend another season as a list clogger.


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Post: # 2033007Post Otiman »

Will be a much cheaper contract than previous, too.

IMO was on the chopping block.


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Tray Jones. Not worth a Zac any more.
Value deflated from 6 pence to three pence; could still be a fun addition to the pudding mix but.


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Can impact if fit.


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Yorkeys wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 11:17am Tray Jones. Not worth a Zac any more.
Value deflated from 6 pence to three pence; could still be a fun addition to the pudding mix but.
Excellent Yorkeys👏 only those living before or around 14 Feb 1966 would appreciate your post.
Alas those post 14/02/1966 coins were too toxic to cook in the pudding mix, they could only be snuck in after the pudding was cooked.

Let’s hope our current 5cent player isn’t too cooked and can get through another season without something going ‘ping’!


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Post: # 2033020Post wally »

Worth keeping I reckon perfect player as a sub less game time able to make an impact


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Post: # 2033024Post repta »

Absolutely worth a punt.
We have paid a lot already for low output.
Would hope he is on a lot less than half he was on.
Therefore good potential upside.


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Yorkeys wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 11:17am Tray Jones. Not worth a Zac any more.
Value deflated from 6 pence to three pence; could still be a fun addition to the pudding mix but.
Who is showing there age now? :D


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wally wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 1:18pm Worth keeping I reckon perfect player as a sub less game time able to make an impact
Agree he is the perfect sub.
Has the pace and aggression to impact when he comes on.

Hopefully it’s a one year deal on a reduced contract.

He’s been averaging about 12-13 games per season over his career, so this is probably our best case.
If he can play as a sub he may be more durable.

Although I rate him as a C grade mid, he is capable of a high output games and has a point of difference to Ross, Crouch, Steele, Clark etc.


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Post: # 2033034Post Scollop »

I would have preferred we cut him loose. Only played 4 games of senior footy this year

Played 13 last year. He took leave of absence at the start of 2022 (just prior to round 1) for personal reasons to 'take care of his 'mental health'.

There was speculation on here that he self reported and because of the rules on multiple offences he had to sit out for 6 weeks.

If there's any truth in those rumours, then we're stuck with a player who is injury prone due to more than just bad luck. In other words, his body can't cope with this level of sport anymore


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Post: # 2033037Post Otiman »

Jones is exactly the type of player we need, just need one with some more durability and consistency.


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Scollop wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 5:07pm I would have preferred we cut him loose. Only played 4 games of senior footy this year

Played 13 last year. He took leave of absence at the start of 2022 (just prior to round 1) for personal reasons to 'take care of his 'mental health'.

There was speculation on here that he self reported and because of the rules on multiple offences he had to sit out for 6 weeks.

If there's any truth in those rumours, then we're stuck with a player who is injury prone due to more than just bad luck. In other words, his body can't cope with this level of sport anymore
Yeah I’m kind of with you.

Absolutely rate him as a player and he’s exactly what we need but I have no faith in his ability to deliver and that’s primarily because I don’t think he’s prepared to do the work/make the sacrifices.

Seems like he’ll always be a risk of a strain/tear at any stage of a match including coming on late and my bet is that his attention to his prep and recovery is lacking


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Scollop wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 5:07pm Played 13 last year. He took leave of absence at the start of 2022 (just prior to round 1) for personal reasons to 'take care of his 'mental health'.

There was speculation on here that he self reported and because of the rules on multiple offences he had to sit out for 6 weeks.

If there's any truth in those rumours, then we're stuck with a player who is injury prone due to more than just bad luck. In other words, his body can't cope with this level of sport anymore
That's a disgrace putting "mental health" in quotes like it's not a real thing.
Especially given that we had one of our players miss our final because of the same reason.
We have no clue as to what is going on in players or their families personal lives.

There is too much air time and bandwith given to gossip mongerers.


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Post: # 2033045Post SaintPav »

I wouldn't call putting quotes around a phrase, albeit a sensitive one, a disgrace. It's contentious but far from being a disgrace.

There's also a kernel of truth to Scollop's post. Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact.


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:27pm I wouldn't call putting quotes around a phrase, albeit a sensitive one, a disgrace. It's contentious but far from being a disgrace.

There's also a kernel of truth to Scollop's post. Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact.
Is it fact now?
Of course there's evidence to back that up?
If not, it is idle gossip.
And someone saying it in an anonymous forum doesn't make it fact.


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Life Long Saint wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:39pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:27pm I wouldn't call putting quotes around a phrase, albeit a sensitive one, a disgrace. It's contentious but far from being a disgrace.

There's also a kernel of truth to Scollop's post. Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact.
Is it fact now?
Of course there's evidence to back that up?
If not, it is idle gossip.
And someone saying it in an anonymous forum doesn't make it fact.
Of course it’s not a fact for obvious reasons.

The kernel of truth I was referring to was a general comment on how some people play the mental health card.


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Life Long Saint wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:22pm
We have no clue as to what is going on in players or their families personal lives.

There is too much air time and bandwith given to gossip mongerers.
I agree with both of these statements.

You'll notice I started my post with a couple of undisputed facts regarding games played and continuing injury concerns.

What was the cost of focussing on Dan Hannebery's recovery every 2-3 months?

It takes effort and time from the football department for ALL our players and to help them not only recover from injuries, but prepare for each game.

I'd rather our fitness, medical staff and high performance people spend time with players who are durable and will be around for the next 5-10 years.
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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 8:11pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:39pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:27pm I wouldn't call putting quotes around a phrase, albeit a sensitive one, a disgrace. It's contentious but far from being a disgrace.

There's also a kernel of truth to Scollop's post. Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact.
Is it fact now?
Of course there's evidence to back that up?
If not, it is idle gossip.
And someone saying it in an anonymous forum doesn't make it fact.
Of course it’s not a fact for obvious reasons.

The kernel of truth I was referring to was a general comment on how some people play the mental health card.
The comment was made under a thread titled Zak Jones, not "some people".
The "mental health" reference was made specifically in relation to Zak Jones.
He took leave of absence at the start of 2022 (just prior to round 1) for personal reasons to 'take care of his 'mental health'.
Making a baseless claim that Zak played the "mental health" card is a disgrace.


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Post: # 2033052Post B.M »

Is the claim that ‘mental Heath’ might have been code for a self reported strike?


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Life Long Saint wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 8:26pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 8:11pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:39pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 7:27pm I wouldn't call putting quotes around a phrase, albeit a sensitive one, a disgrace. It's contentious but far from being a disgrace.

There's also a kernel of truth to Scollop's post. Just because you don't like it, doesn't change the fact.
Is it fact now?
Of course there's evidence to back that up?
If not, it is idle gossip.
And someone saying it in an anonymous forum doesn't make it fact.
Of course it’s not a fact for obvious reasons.

The kernel of truth I was referring to was a general comment on how some people play the mental health card.
The comment was made under a thread titled Zak Jones, not "some people".
The "mental health" reference was made specifically in relation to Zak Jones.
He took leave of absence at the start of 2022 (just prior to round 1) for personal reasons to 'take care of his 'mental health'.
Making a baseless claim that Zak played the "mental health" card is a disgrace.
Serenity.


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 8:37pm Serenity.
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B.M wrote: Fri 29 Sep 2023 8:32pm Is the claim that ‘mental Heath’ might have been code for a self reported strike?
That’s what I thought was being alluded to.


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Post: # 2033084Post shanegrambeau »

Using the “ “ for mental health is a way of saying “we just don’t know the real story” I would have thought.

And fair enough.

But by all means, go ahead and reach for the ‘Cancel button’ …the Jacobites are in town, and they’re here to stay.


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Hmmm...
Typically the use of quotes around a phrase or word means that it's not the real thing.
e.g. I'm "working from home" tomorrow means that I will be home doing things other than work, but I'll check my emails to make sure I don't miss anything.
Everyone knows that you're not working at all.

I'd have thought that after the Tim Membrey scare that we'd all be a little more understanding and take a mental health reason on face value and not try to baselessly speculate for another reason.
As I said earlier, we have no idea what's going on in a players personal life either directly or indirectly that may take their focus away from footy.

Leave the gossip mongoring to Caro and Hutchy!


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