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Saints-Zebras affiliation revamped

Post: # 2035672Post BringBackMadDog »

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1457123/ ... -selection

Not sure about the guaranteed rookie spot, seen a lot of Sandy over the few years and there's not a lot to get excited about in their ranks. Maybe Milney's boy?


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Post: # 2035673Post skeptic »

I like that the club is leaning into this.

Reality is that it’s in our interest to have a strong and vibrant Sandy team/culture. It’s a good club linked strongly to us and fits in strategically with our club identity as the Bayside club.

Can’t keep treating them as a lesser saints reserves.

Need to make it work


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Post: # 2035674Post Life Long Saint »

They still don't feel like a St Kilda Reserves Team.


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So the brains trust is happy to have our 'seconds' team running around in ugly Hawks colours


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Post: # 2035679Post amusingname »

I think it is a good move that could help all parties. Juniors overlooked in the draft have an incentive to choose Sandy as a VFL club, Sandy get more talent in the door, Saints get a closer look at potential talent and how they may blossom or struggle in the club environment.


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Re: Saints-Zebras affiliation revamped

Post: # 2035680Post saynta »

BringBackMadDog wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 3:33pm https://www.saints.com.au/news/1457123/ ... -selection

Not sure about the guaranteed rookie spot, seen a lot of Sandy over the few years and there's not a lot to get excited about in their ranks. Maybe Milney's boy?
Yes, to young Tyson Milne.
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Re: Saints-Zebras affiliation revamped

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amusingname wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 6:47pm I think it is a good move that could help all parties. Juniors overlooked in the draft have an incentive to choose Sandy as a VFL club, Sandy get more talent in the door, Saints get a closer look at potential talent and how they may blossom or struggle in the club environment.
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You could only dislike this initiative if you're incredibly short sighted.


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Interesting that Sandy are appointing a Recruiting Manager. Who was doing the recruiting previously?


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Post: # 2035689Post Jacks Back »

"As part of St Kilda’s existing affiliation with Sandringham, non-selected players are eligible to play from the Zebras in the VFL competition."

I thought we already did this. "from" should be "with"?


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Post: # 2035692Post amusingname »

Jacks Back wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 9:30pm "As part of St Kilda’s existing affiliation with Sandringham, non-selected players are eligible to play from the Zebras in the VFL competition."

I thought we already did this. "from" should be "with"?
We do, it is stating the existing arrangement. Pretty clumsily worded though.


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nostalgicsaint wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 6:50pm
amusingname wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 6:47pm I think it is a good move that could help all parties. Juniors overlooked in the draft have an incentive to choose Sandy as a VFL club, Sandy get more talent in the door, Saints get a closer look at potential talent and how they may blossom or struggle in the club environment.
💯

You could only dislike this initiative if you're incredibly short sighted.
Hawks have done it well... people going to Box Hill know they are a chance to get picked up by Hawks, so good players go there... they then have a successful side and also produce players like Newman.

Every time a Sandy player trained with Saints in the summer, they did not get put on the list... so why would a good player with ambitions to play AFL chose Sandy over Box Hill?

Geelomg and Bulldogs also seem to try to bring talent through their VFL sides.

So.. seems a good initiative to me


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Smacks of professionalism.
Soon we won't recognise the joint.


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Post: # 2035713Post Life Long Saint »

When are they going to become the Sandringham Saints?
When are they going to wear Red, White, and Black?
Why are we the only team to have a VFL alignment where the aligned club still looks and sounds like an old VFA team?
Every other club either has a deidicated reserves team, or the aligned team is AFL branded...Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons...Both changed from the Mustangs and Scorpions to wholly align themselves.
It's time for the Zebras to become the Saints!


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Yorkeys wrote: Fri 27 Oct 2023 11:20am Smacks of professionalism.
Soon we won't recognise the joint.
Ha, nearly fell off my chair and definitely made me laugh.
Great comments, Yorker.


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Re: Saints-Zebras affiliation revamped

Post: # 2035769Post magnifisaint »

WellardSaint wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 4:49pm So the brains trust is happy to have our 'seconds' team running around in ugly Hawks colours
That's their traditional colours. Not sure why you need to say that.


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Re: Saints-Zebras affiliation revamped

Post: # 2035776Post 66Iwasthere »

The Bayside area in Melbourne has probably the richest supply of football talent in Australia. See Sandy Dragons, Brighton Grammar, Beaumaris FC etc. why don’t we capitalise on this a lot more.


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magnifisaint wrote: Sat 28 Oct 2023 1:01pm
WellardSaint wrote: Thu 26 Oct 2023 4:49pm So the brains trust is happy to have our 'seconds' team running around in ugly Hawks colours
That's their traditional colours. Not sure why you need to say that.
But they're our 2nds team. I'm not sure the Zebras would be around in the VFL if not for our alignment.
Springvale and Box Hill had to suck it up and have a name change.
It's about time they became the Sandringham Saints and wore our colours...Or at least our WWI colours if you want to replace the white with yellow.

And, for the record, Sandringham wear gold, black, and blue...Not brown. So no Hawks colurs.


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Post: # 2035821Post B.M »

Does it matter a fk what colours they are wearing?!

Would they play or develop better in another jumper??

The only people obsessed with jumpers are fans


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Post: # 2035852Post Saintmatt »

So I guess all that previous propaganda about getting our own St Kilda VFL Team paying out of Moorabbin is now dead and buried yeah? The biggest issue with the Sandy alliance is having to play at Beach Rd. It's a very small ground with a fair to middling surface and is almost unplayable on some of those galeforce windy days. It's not at all suitable to developing AFL talent (the ground size and conditions don't really compare to AFL venues)


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B.M wrote: Sun 29 Oct 2023 5:29pm Does it matter a fk what colours they are wearing?!

Would they play or develop better in another jumper??

The only people obsessed with jumpers are fans
Yeah...What value do the fans add?


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None


To performance or development


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Saintmatt wrote: Mon 30 Oct 2023 12:36pm So I guess all that previous propaganda about getting our own St Kilda VFL Team paying out of Moorabbin is now dead and buried yeah? The biggest issue with the Sandy alliance is having to play at Beach Rd. It's a very small ground with a fair to middling surface and is almost unplayable on some of those galeforce windy days. It's not at all suitable to developing AFL talent (the ground size and conditions don't really compare to AFL venues)
Our reserves shouldn't play there at all. It's like playing matches in Tottori. Our home games should be at Moorabbin, or a curtain raiser at Docklands or the G.

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Post: # 2035881Post shanegrambeau »

St Kilda and Sandy feel like cousins to me. Including the clashing colours. Not that I wouldn't disagree that a reserves team in red, white and black would be good. I do. I wish we could have both!

Memories of Saints players in Zeb colours on a Sunday at Beach Oval. Rex Hunt!

And it was fun down there being with my mates, who were mostly Richmond at the time, but we all liked the Zebs.

does anyone remember going to a game between the St Kilda reserves and Sandy one year? Or am I dreaming? I think there was one, and I think I was there!


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shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 30 Oct 2023 11:23pm St Kilda and Sandy feel like cousins to me. Including the clashing colours. Not that I wouldn't disagree that a reserves team in red, white and black would be good. I do. I wish we could have both!

Memories of Saints players in Zeb colours on a Sunday at Beach Oval. Rex Hunt!

And it was fun down there being with my mates, who were mostly Richmond at the time, but we all liked the Zebs.

does anyone remember going to a game between the St Kilda reserves and Sandy one year? Or am I dreaming? I think there was one, and I think I was there!
Zebras are black & white with red are...bottoms, or is that baboons. SS, Sandringham Saintz. Oh when the Zebs come galloping in....


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