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Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:14pm
How bad is Clark's knee?
Could be the end of his career and sadly reflects our draft recruiting over the years. Our 2 top 10 draft picks from that year no longer at the club, both with potential and both cruelled by bad luck and injury.
That's right. Our recruiters should have an ability to predict the future injury history of all potential draftees with 100% accuracy.
How dare they not be able to do this?!
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shrodes wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:02pm
Dow had a good last quarter in the clinches, racked up quite a few important clearances. Agree that he isn't banging down the door for selection.
Curious if anyone who watches the games thinks Arie is close? Personally I feel like he has a lot to work on defensively, seems almost allergic to tackling or pressure of any kind, and his stats belie his actual performance a bit I reckon. Note this is a not a knock on him long term, just a reflection on where he's currently at amid a bunch of people I've seen crying for him to be in the main squad.
Arie plays the Bonner role. Finds space very well, recieves and delivers. Offers more of an aerial contest than Bonner, and not as much at ground level.
I can see a world where Bonner goes out, With Arie and Paton coming in. Not sure who would be the second out to cover for this.
Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:14pm
How bad is Clark's knee?
Could be the end of his career and sadly reflects our draft recruiting over the years. Our 2 top 10 draft picks from that year no longer at the club, both with potential and both cruelled by bad luck and injury.
That's right. Our recruiters should have an ability to predict the future injury history of all potential draftees with 100% accuracy.
How dare they not be able to do this?!
End of career based on what reports?
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Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:14pm
How bad is Clark's knee?
Could be the end of his career and sadly reflects our draft recruiting over the years. Our 2 top 10 draft picks from that year no longer at the club, both with potential and both cruelled by bad luck and injury.
That's right. Our recruiters should have an ability to predict the future injury history of all potential draftees with 100% accuracy.
How dare they not be able to do this?!
Wrong vibe, it's typical of our luck as well as bad choices in drafting.
Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:14pm
How bad is Clark's knee?
Could be the end of his career and sadly reflects our draft recruiting over the years. Our 2 top 10 draft picks from that year no longer at the club, both with potential and both cruelled by bad luck and injury.
That's right. Our recruiters should have an ability to predict the future injury history of all potential draftees with 100% accuracy.
How dare they not be able to do this?!
End of career based on what reports?
End if career depending in severity and how it will effect him.
If it's bad, wouldn't surprise me if he just gave it away because of the luck he is having.
I watched the game and IMO Sandringham were lucky to get away with a win. They played well in patches but Norths run and gun handball out of defence cut them up at times. Campbell was huge with his clearances and around the ground marking, but I dont know if he was injured in the last quarter he didnt play out the game.
Most of the Saints listed players played well, particularly Campbell, Jones, Paton, Sharman, Shoemaker and O'Connell. Collard finished his chances well, McLennan marked well, Caminiti competed but was beaten in the air, Heath rucked ok but otherwise was ineffectual.
Shoenmaker is used as a run by release player on most exits, but his one on one defensive efforts still need a bit of work. He is the sort of player who could come in and replace Bonner if he gets injured.
Clark & Allison were both injured. If Allison has done his foot again thats him done and dusted, the upside is it will allow the club a list spot to look at the mid season draft.
Collard is a good finisher there is no doubt, but there is something off with the kid he never looks happy or emotionally engaged during games, nor does he get excited if his team mates scoring. The only emotion you see is frustration and disappointment when his team mates dont use him. In a team game he has more to do before he should be considered at AFL level IMO.
Phillipou didnt do a lot yesterday he would be the only player in danger after the win. RTB said in his presser Henry was ready to play next week so I expect him to replace Phillipou. The only other who had a quiet game was Garcia, Jones is the only player capable of filling that role that played well today. Whether or not RTB gives him another chance is questionable.
Paton had a really good game but our defence went well yesterday.
Last edited by SteeleSaints on Mon 06 May 2024 1:10am, edited 1 time in total.
Bruce G McAbee wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:14pm
How bad is Clark's knee?
Could be the end of his career and sadly reflects our draft recruiting over the years. Our 2 top 10 draft picks from that year no longer at the club, both with potential and both cruelled by bad luck and injury.
That's right. Our recruiters should have an ability to predict the future injury history of all potential draftees with 100% accuracy.
How dare they not be able to do this?!
End of career based on what reports?
End if career depending in severity and how it will effect him.
If it's bad, wouldn't surprise me if he just gave it away because of the luck he is having.
SteeleSaints wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 5:15pm
Surprise Sandi bombing it long into F50 and wasting dominant period. North out marked them on most occasions, the Sandi forwards are all one out none of them work to block for a team mate.
Its something that we are really poor at at AFL in our F50, so shouldn't expect any difference here.
Put a line through Allison he will be gone at seasons end. Clark should also be traded out aswell IMO, too injury prone and not prepared to work hard enough to build the body required.
I noticed that too - seem to have forgotten we did NOT take Biggie - kept kicking to him
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Otiman wrote: ↑Sun 05 May 2024 6:28pm
Best of the Saints listed: Jones, Sharman (in defense), Collard, Paton.
Caminiti plenty of chances, but won the ball under a bit too much pressure and missed a few.
Dow was good when he got his hands on it.
I think Collard and Paton could come into the side next week. Dow and Henry a chance as well.
Jones is an interesting one where he has proven poor form at AFL level but rips it up in the VFL. A bit like Lonie and Bytel.
The difference in Jones apparent form is indicative of the difference in level between AFL and VFL.
He is too good for VFL but getting too slow for AFL.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
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Isaac Keeler & Zaine Cordy did not play despite not being listed as injured but in the case of Cordy he was dropped from the AFL team due to "managed".
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
ace wrote: ↑Mon 06 May 2024 12:08am
Isaac Keeler & Zaine Cordy did not play despite not being listed as injured but in the case of Cordy he was dropped from the AFL team due to "managed".
Keeler reportedly had a calf injury in the warmup and was a late out
B.M wrote: ↑Mon 06 May 2024 6:55pm
Jones is extremely quick
No composure and takes on the tackler every time- runs himself into trouble or gets caught.
Born for League where its constant tackle/try to break tackle and team mates are behind the ball carrier.
Guys in front or beside Zac get terribly confused about what's happening.
