Goose offically out for Round 1

saintsRrising · Tue 11 Mar 2008 9:08am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 42,00.html

Key defender Matt Maguire, returning from a foot stress fracture, is a strong chance to resume at Casey this weekend.

But Maguire will not be rushed and is not in contention for the first round.

I think we were all expecting that news.

The article also says:

Although two lead-in matches is a less than ideal preparation for the home-and-away opener against Sydney at Telstra Dome, St Kilda football manager Matthew Drain refused to rule out playing Goddard.

"He's a very good player. We'll weigh it up," Drain said.

"It depends on how he shapes up after this weekend."

You would imagine that they would be cautious with BJ though...particularly in light of the good form of most of our players.

Lets hope he is fully match practiced and ready for the Cats game...along with we hope Goose.

Oh When the Saints · Tue 11 Mar 2008 9:34am

Can't wait until BJ is back ...

He's in our best dozen when fit, and I was watching a game from '06 the other day .... geez we missed him last year.

I think most of us (certainly I) have forgotten how good Goddard is when he's fit and in form.

Love watching the way he plays his footy too, and hopefully he can make it back early in the season - Round two if not the opener.

saintsRrising · Tue 11 Mar 2008 9:39am

Apart from his normal play...I can't wait to have him kicking in from FB...

riccardo · Post: # 530398Post **riccardo** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 11:40am

Not surprised about Maguire, unfortunately.

But BJ may play - that would be awesome. Loving the Beej, would be great to see him back.

Armoooo · Post: # 530410Post **Armoooo** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 12:15pm

I really don't think we should rush either of them, obviously they know a lot more about the guys then I do but if I were in that situation I would let BJ play with Casey for the first 4 or 5 rounds to let him fully establish his fitness base...

GrumpyOne · Post: # 530459Post **GrumpyOne** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 2:20pm

Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.

Otiman · Post: # 530510Post **Otiman** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 4:01pm

GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.

Careful GO, I was shot down by about 20 posters the last time I suggested it.

hAyES · Post: # 530529Post **hAyES** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 4:26pm

No surprise there. I'd rather they ease him into the season then rush him back like they did last year.

Isn't it amazing what one freak injury can do to a career.. Hopefully he can come back at full strength.

ace · Post: # 530577Post **ace** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 5:46pm

Put simply if you can't make it into the final 8 with a few players missing for a few games you aren't good in enough to play in the grand final.
Both Goddard and Maguire should be given plenty of time to return and absolutely no risks taken.

St. Luke · Post: # 530636Post **St. Luke** » Tue 11 Mar 2008 7:40pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:Can't wait until BJ is back ...

He's in our best dozen when fit, and I was watching a game from '06 the other day .... geez we missed him last year.

Couldn't agree more! BJ gives the side that added flare. I'll be rapt to see him back again!

saintspremiers · Tue 11 Mar 2008 7:43pm

GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.

I hate to say it but I do agree with you....he seemed very sus last year, but then again he's not that old and has another 6 months up his sleeve, so fingers crossed.........

Bono · Post: # 531221Post **Bono** » Wed 12 Mar 2008 9:00pm

We should start looking towards StKFC without Goose. Develop Jarryd Allen. Goose is to unaccountable and despite being able to kick the ball a fair distance, his efficiency is only 75%. If his ability paralleled his ego, he's be a superstar.

Dal_Santos_Gal · Wed 12 Mar 2008 9:13pm

saintspremiers wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.
I hate to say it but I do agree with you....he seemed very sus last year, but then again he's not that old and has another 6 months up his sleeve, so fingers crossed.........

Hey guys, look I understand where you are coming from and I hate to say that could well happen.
But people thought the same about Nathan Brown, came back, broke down, come back again, same result. But he did come back and play some damn good footy last year considering the past couple of years he had.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 531231Post **GrumpyOne** » Wed 12 Mar 2008 9:17pm

Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.
I hate to say it but I do agree with you....he seemed very sus last year, but then again he's not that old and has another 6 months up his sleeve, so fingers crossed.........
Hey guys, look I understand where you are coming from and I hate to say that could well happen.
But people thought the same about Nathan Brown, came back, broke down, come back again, same result. But he did come back and play some damn good footy last year considering the past couple of years he had.

We all hope he does come back DSG, but my sources tell me he is very close to pulling the plug. Just so much a guy can overcome; not only is it physically difficult, there is a mental side to it too.

asiu · Post: # 531243Post **asiu** » Wed 12 Mar 2008 9:38pm

Both Goddard and Maguire should be given plenty of time to return ....

agreed......bonus plus with those two rejoining the list a third of the way through the season

iwantmeseats · Wed 12 Mar 2008 9:47pm

GrumpyOne wrote:
Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.
I hate to say it but I do agree with you....he seemed very sus last year, but then again he's not that old and has another 6 months up his sleeve, so fingers crossed.........
Hey guys, look I understand where you are coming from and I hate to say that could well happen.
But people thought the same about Nathan Brown, came back, broke down, come back again, same result. But he did come back and play some damn good footy last year considering the past couple of years he had.
We all hope he does come back DSG, but my sources tell me he is very close to pulling the plug. Just so much a guy can overcome; not only is it physically difficult, there is a mental side to it too.

If your going to make such a statement as goose is close to pulling the plug, you have to give us more than "my sources".....please...

iwantmeseats · Wed 12 Mar 2008 10:00pm

hmmm, thinking more about this..goose seemed really upbeat when on stage talking at the family day...

Though when I was leaving he was walking up the road and some girls called out to him. He sort of waved, or fobbed em off, probably a combination, but he certainly didnt seem that happy. Just sayin, dosent mean anything.

Anyway, Id be staggered if he pulled the plug without giving it another shot at least.

joffaboy · Post: # 531263Post **joffaboy** » Wed 12 Mar 2008 10:12pm

iwantmeseats wrote:
Though when I was leaving he was walking up the road and some girls called out to him. He sort of waved, or fobbed em off, probably a combination, but he certainly didnt seem that happy. Just sayin, dosent mean anything.

Who would be happy having to spend a whole day in Frankston???????

iwantmeseats · Wed 12 Mar 2008 10:13pm

joffaboy wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:
Though when I was leaving he was walking up the road and some girls called out to him. He sort of waved, or fobbed em off, probably a combination, but he certainly didnt seem that happy. Just sayin, dosent mean anything.

Who would be happy having to spend a whole day in Frankston???????

touche

Enrico_Misso · Thu 13 Mar 2008 12:07am

iwantmeseats wrote:hmmm, thinking more about this..goose seemed really upbeat when on stage talking at the family day...

Though when I was leaving he was walking up the road and some girls called out to him. He sort of waved, or fobbed em off, probably a combination, but he certainly didnt seem that happy. Just sayin, dosent mean anything.

Anyway, Id be staggered if he pulled the plug without giving it another shot at least.

Was your car still there ?

GrumpyOne · Post: # 531341Post **GrumpyOne** » Thu 13 Mar 2008 10:02am

iwantmeseats wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Don't be surprised if the next time Maguire breaks down in his comeback attempt, he calls it quits for the rest of the season, and re-evaluates his career from then on.

Hate it to happen, but the injury was just about as severe as you can get and still play again.

Credit to the lad for his efforts so far, but one more setback will just about be it for him.
I hate to say it but I do agree with you....he seemed very sus last year, but then again he's not that old and has another 6 months up his sleeve, so fingers crossed.........
Hey guys, look I understand where you are coming from and I hate to say that could well happen.
But people thought the same about Nathan Brown, came back, broke down, come back again, same result. But he did come back and play some damn good footy last year considering the past couple of years he had.
We all hope he does come back DSG, but my sources tell me he is very close to pulling the plug. Just so much a guy can overcome; not only is it physically difficult, there is a mental side to it too.

If your going to make such a statement as goose is close to pulling the plug, you have to give us more than "my sources".....please...

Mate, if I told you more my info supply is cut off.

The end result is that only Goose knows what he will do if there is another setback in his path. The mail is that the club will take the direction that they took with Leigh Fisher, that is to offer him the rest of the year off and let him re-evaluate his desire to play on next year.