They don't know we're coming
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What will be making the opposition sit up and notice is the fact that we're kicking winning scores with little (or no) contribution from Roo (on the scoreboard). Over the past couple of years the opposition have concentrated on stopping Roo's output as they believed we relied heavily on him to score.PJ wrote:I think you'll find everyone knows we're coming. Every coach will have the tapes by now but it's not a game plan or style that's easy tp pick holes in and which players do you isolate as having the most impact - too many.
In the forst 3 weeks we've seen the opposition continue this trend but we've actually been spreadng our attacking moves into F50 by using planty of others.
This new found confidence by our players to 'by-pass' Roo has found out the defenders on a number of occasions already this year.
Just look at the second qtr of the Eagles game when Worsfold sent 2 and 3 extra players down back to try and man-up all our players while still double-teaming Roo. It makes it very difficult for them to score if they have so many of their players permanently playing in their own backline.
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I'm referring more to fans... I had a scum supporter ask me how our 'rabble' were looking on thursday night, I told him what's it matter, the flag is already theirs.PJ wrote:I think you'll find everyone knows we're coming. Every coach will have the tapes by now but it's not a game plan or style that's easy tp pick holes in and which players do you isolate as having the most impact - too many.
Good points. What is so interesting or impressive about the saints at the moment it's hard to pinpoint which of our areas of improvement is having the most impact. Just looking at the tally of BOG votes by sainters dad who'd have thought Lenny and Roo would be so low on the list? Who'd have picked CJ as no 1 tagger? Who'd have picked Gardy as a dominant ruckman? The list goes on.PJ wrote:
I think you'll find everyone knows we're coming. Every coach will have the tapes by now but it's not a game plan or style that's easy tp pick holes in and which players do you isolate as having the most impact - too many.
What will be making the opposition sit up and notice is the fact that we're kicking winning scores with little (or no) contribution from Roo (on the scoreboard). Over the past couple of years the opposition have concentrated on stopping Roo's output as they believed we relied heavily on him to score.
In the forst 3 weeks we've seen the opposition continue this trend but we've actually been spreadng our attacking moves into F50 by using planty of others.
This new found confidence by our players to 'by-pass' Roo has found out the defenders on a number of occasions already this year.
Just look at the second qtr of the Eagles game when Worsfold sent 2 and 3 extra players down back to try and man-up all our players while still double-teaming Roo. It makes it very difficult for them to score if they have so many of their players permanently playing in their own backline.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
Just give them the knowing smirk - they'll know what you mean when their little over rated bunch of media stars start falling back into the pack with the rest.I'm referring more to fans... I had a scum supporter ask me how our 'rabble' were looking on thursday night, I told him what's it matter, the flag is already theirs.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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I think in one contest he had 5 players on him, and still the ball came to ground... it was almost comical.Mr Magic wrote: Just look at the second qtr of the Eagles game when Worsfold sent 2 and 3 extra players down back to try and man-up all our players while still double-teaming Roo. It makes it very difficult for them to score if they have so many of their players permanently playing in their own backline.
What a day out!
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Yup, I cant wait.PJ wrote:Just give them the knowing smirk - they'll know what you mean when their little over rated bunch of media stars start falling back into the pack with the rest.I'm referring more to fans... I had a scum supporter ask me how our 'rabble' were looking on thursday night, I told him what's it matter, the flag is already theirs.
God I hope we beat them yet again... it will be joyous.
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I hope we keep a lid on it also. I thought the following comment by Rohan Connolly in his match report on Real Footy (12 March) was interesting and possibly has basis:
HistoricIally, St Kilda isn't a club that has been able to contain its excitement very well once things start going its way. And that could indeed present a far bigger challenge internally than next opponent Fremantle.
HistoricIally, St Kilda isn't a club that has been able to contain its excitement very well once things start going its way. And that could indeed present a far bigger challenge internally than next opponent Fremantle.
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They've been filling champagne bottles with their own bathwater and could not help themselves by popping a few.markp wrote:Yup, I cant wait.PJ wrote:Just give them the knowing smirk - they'll know what you mean when their little over rated bunch of media stars start falling back into the pack with the rest.I'm referring more to fans... I had a scum supporter ask me how our 'rabble' were looking on thursday night, I told him what's it matter, the flag is already theirs.
God I hope we beat them yet again... it will be joyous.
The new 'Fab 4'...spare me! How they can be compared to the 01, 02, 03 Lions is beyond comprehension. They are still a long way from the Cats current crop of Ablett, Bartel, Selwood and Corey. Even our mids of Hayes, Ball, Dal Santo and Montagna should be insulted. Would also love to know how it went down with Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis and Sewell.
I trust Hird wrote it in the knowledge they would be too engrossed in the article and their own self importance and take their eye off the ball.
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exactly, Hird knew what he was doing.....shove all the focus on to the 'fab 4'.
i love the thread title btw......
everyone will say the same old shite
"its st kilda, they will fall in a hole....they never get there in the end, happens every time"
well not this time people.......not this time.
welcome to the real house of pain this week fremantle
i love the thread title btw......
everyone will say the same old shite
"its st kilda, they will fall in a hole....they never get there in the end, happens every time"
well not this time people.......not this time.
welcome to the real house of pain this week fremantle
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possible thanks go to leigh tudor for this?Mr Magic wrote:What will be making the opposition sit up and notice is the fact that we're kicking winning scores with little (or no) contribution from Roo (on the scoreboard). Over the past couple of years the opposition have concentrated on stopping Roo's output as they believed we relied heavily on him to score.PJ wrote:I think you'll find everyone knows we're coming. Every coach will have the tapes by now but it's not a game plan or style that's easy tp pick holes in and which players do you isolate as having the most impact - too many.
In the forst 3 weeks we've seen the opposition continue this trend but we've actually been spreadng our attacking moves into F50 by using planty of others.
This new found confidence by our players to 'by-pass' Roo has found out the defenders on a number of occasions already this year.
Just look at the second qtr of the Eagles game when Worsfold sent 2 and 3 extra players down back to try and man-up all our players while still double-teaming Roo. It makes it very difficult for them to score if they have so many of their players permanently playing in their own backline.
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From what I hear Barker getting 'poached' by the Hawks may just have been the best thing that happened to us in the off-season.saintly wrote:possible thanks go to leigh tudor for this?Mr Magic wrote:What will be making the opposition sit up and notice is the fact that we're kicking winning scores with little (or no) contribution from Roo (on the scoreboard). Over the past couple of years the opposition have concentrated on stopping Roo's output as they believed we relied heavily on him to score.PJ wrote:I think you'll find everyone knows we're coming. Every coach will have the tapes by now but it's not a game plan or style that's easy tp pick holes in and which players do you isolate as having the most impact - too many.
In the forst 3 weeks we've seen the opposition continue this trend but we've actually been spreadng our attacking moves into F50 by using planty of others.
This new found confidence by our players to 'by-pass' Roo has found out the defenders on a number of occasions already this year.
Just look at the second qtr of the Eagles game when Worsfold sent 2 and 3 extra players down back to try and man-up all our players while still double-teaming Roo. It makes it very difficult for them to score if they have so many of their players permanently playing in their own backline.
I think his influence on the mids and forwards has been glossed over (ignored) by many outside of the Club.
Remember he was at Geelong when they switched to teh 'super team' they ahve become in the last couple of years.
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Why does Barker cop it so much? What about Rock? He was the one in charge of our midfield. IMO our midfield has been the biggest difference so far this year, not the forwards.Mr Magic wrote:From what I hear Barker getting 'poached' by the Hawks may just have been the best thing that happened to us in the off-season.
I don't know if Rock is the midfield coach at North, but their midfield is looking pretty ordinary right now. They've also pushed Harvey and Wells out of the midfield and replaced them with more ordinary players. It reminds me a lot of when we had Leigh Fisher and Jason Blake in at centre bounces.
Yeah nah pleasing positive
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Elshaugh had already been appointed to replace Rock when Tudor was appointed Forwards Coach to replace Barker.
There is another subtle difference this year - Greg Hutcheson (sp?) seems to be having a 'hands-on' role this season as well. Have noticed him taking drills etc at training with the whole group.
There is another subtle difference this year - Greg Hutcheson (sp?) seems to be having a 'hands-on' role this season as well. Have noticed him taking drills etc at training with the whole group.
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who is the development coach for the young ones?Mr Magic wrote:Elshaugh had already been appointed to replace Rock when Tudor was appointed Forwards Coach to replace Barker.
There is another subtle difference this year - Greg Hutcheson (sp?) seems to be having a 'hands-on' role this season as well. Have noticed him taking drills etc at training with the whole group.
for the first time we have a development coach. therefore we should see some improvement of the of the young ones this year.
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two in the development role- Danny Sexton still there and Andy Lovell- so good connections back to Sandy- with Hutchy's experience from last year as well.saintly wrote:who is the development coach for the young ones?Mr Magic wrote:Elshaugh had already been appointed to replace Rock when Tudor was appointed Forwards Coach to replace Barker.
There is another subtle difference this year - Greg Hutcheson (sp?) seems to be having a 'hands-on' role this season as well. Have noticed him taking drills etc at training with the whole group.
for the first time we have a development coach. therefore we should see some improvement of the of the young ones this year.
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