Very messy situation indeed. Going to be a lot of he said she said and speculation.
Just curious does anyone know why the saints have been named as a club in connection to this but the other club has not been?
Faaaarrkkk...... (Sex media beat-up thread)
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I agree with Richter. I find this guy very offensive. And with an absolutly shocking attitude towards females.Richter wrote:Do we really have to have this warped individual posting on this site?Saintsfan wrote:In the end. The girl is a whore. I have never met her however this part is true. Abortion is a wonderful thing you pathetic little sl*t so do the right thing.
Time to pull the plug mods.....
Seriously
Probably Collingwood, no news there, just common practice! 
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degruch wrote:Previous form from our club, I'd suggest. Mud sticks.TazzieSaintGirl83 wrote:Just curious does anyone know why the saints have been named as a club in connection to this but the other club has not been?
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/95027/default.aspxMate they just dont have your moral compass. In fact instead of blaming everyone and carrying on like a halfwit (like you are) they seem to be in the business of trying to sort it all out.Saintsfan wrote:Either way we have a girl and two young men with a lack of moral compass. All parties involved are (that word I am refraining from typing).joffaboy wrote:Second part of this post again i agree with. Still cant agree with labelling just one of the parties a whore.Saintsfan wrote: Regardless of the age of the guardian this is still not good enough from all parties.
I stand by my previous remarks regarding the 'girl'. She is what she is and now along with the player have to parent a child at some ridiculously young age when they both should be maturing themselves. This is not good enough from all involved.
In my daughters circle of friends, the girls call boys who are just after one thing a man-whore and are most disparaging towards them.
Same thing could be pointed toward the Saints players.
To have a 27 year old guardian present is disturbing. Regardless of being a parent or guardian to allow these 'supposed' events to occur is nothing short of criminal and a link could surely be drawn from the actions/lack of actions from the guardian and the by-product of a another pregnant teen
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Agreed Moods, not using a condom is th the height of stupidity, and couldn't agree more, labelling the girl a whore is wrong.Moods wrote: Geez True Believer - not sure I was excusing the school girls's behavior. I have two young daughters myself, and would be horrified if they did anything like this. In fact I know they wouldn't, b/c they won't be going to nightclubs/bars when they are 16. The slant on this site initially when this thread opened the way I portrayed it anyway was poor old saints players have been dudded by this girl. Yes they have. Appears on the surface to be no doubting that. And yes, there probably are serious questions about her upbringing. The fact that she has a 27yr old guardian probably brings that fact into focus.
All I'm saying though, is it takes two to tango and let's not lay it all at the girls feet. She's young, stupid, impressionable. You would think grown men who are having plenty of sex would have had the common sense to roll on a condom with a stranger. Labelling her a whore at 16 I believe is wrong.
But I don't think it's wrong because she's 16, but because we don't know the details. Ultimately, if she had a habit of bedding down to new AFL players per week, perhaps she should be labelled? Maybe that is a major part of where we seem to go wrong these days as a society, where we are all warm cuddles and feeling good ! No-one gets called to account for their deeds or choices in a straight-forward manner that is embarrassing anymore. There are no negative outcomes for negative behaviours, only positive reinforcment for good behaviours and bribery by lazy parents.
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Was just saying the players in question not wearing a condom is wrong.True Believer wrote:Agreed Moods, not using a condom is th the height of stupidity, and couldn't agree more, labelling the girl a whore is wrong.Moods wrote: Geez True Believer - not sure I was excusing the school girls's behavior. I have two young daughters myself, and would be horrified if they did anything like this. In fact I know they wouldn't, b/c they won't be going to nightclubs/bars when they are 16. The slant on this site initially when this thread opened the way I portrayed it anyway was poor old saints players have been dudded by this girl. Yes they have. Appears on the surface to be no doubting that. And yes, there probably are serious questions about her upbringing. The fact that she has a 27yr old guardian probably brings that fact into focus.
All I'm saying though, is it takes two to tango and let's not lay it all at the girls feet. She's young, stupid, impressionable. You would think grown men who are having plenty of sex would have had the common sense to roll on a condom with a stranger. Labelling her a whore at 16 I believe is wrong.
But I don't think it's wrong because she's 16, but because we don't know the details. Ultimately, if she had a habit of bedding down to new AFL players per week, perhaps she should be labelled? Maybe that is a major part of where we seem to go wrong these days as a society, where we are all warm cuddles and feeling good ! No-one gets called to account for their deeds or choices in a straight-forward manner that is embarrassing anymore. There are no negative outcomes for negative behaviours, only positive reinforcment for good behaviours and bribery by lazy parents.
Completely Wrong calling the girl a whore as well,
They could have used protection and it failed... so lets not start lashing our players for being stuipid.
Plus the girl could have slept with any number of addittional people who have gotten her pregnant.
This is a huge non event, except for the stress on our players, and even then its not really their fault.
Plus the girl could have slept with any number of addittional people who have gotten her pregnant.
This is a huge non event, except for the stress on our players, and even then its not really their fault.
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lols...
I think some people need to relax a bit.
Would appear that players have done nothing illegal.
Morally it could be cloudy in some people's eyes but I doubt anyone would be even suspended at this stage...
Bit of a beat up...
I think some people need to relax a bit.
Would appear that players have done nothing illegal.
Morally it could be cloudy in some people's eyes but I doubt anyone would be even suspended at this stage...
Bit of a beat up...
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Didnt think of that, media loves anything that will sell the papers I guess.degruch wrote:Previous form from our club, I'd suggest. Mud sticks.TazzieSaintGirl83 wrote:Just curious does anyone know why the saints have been named as a club in connection to this but the other club has not been?
From the information that has been appearing so far it seems as its more iffy moral wise than anything illegal. But as I only know whats been reported in the media thats just my opinion.
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I just love the way some of us are on our higher ground here 
I bet some of you have not been involved in a football club at all
Young people do silly things, lets not hang them for it FFS
Some of you think that footballers should be some sort of perfect human being, for F*** sake they are just young men/boys nothing more and they are meant to be role models give me a break, just because they can kick a footy does not mean they will not make a mistake in life from time to time.
How about waiting for the facts before we go labeling anyone, just who do you think you are, some of you sound like farkwits IMHO.
I bet some of you have not been involved in a football club at all
Young people do silly things, lets not hang them for it FFS
Some of you think that footballers should be some sort of perfect human being, for F*** sake they are just young men/boys nothing more and they are meant to be role models give me a break, just because they can kick a footy does not mean they will not make a mistake in life from time to time.
How about waiting for the facts before we go labeling anyone, just who do you think you are, some of you sound like farkwits IMHO.
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Did not happen in Sydney.SaintTom wrote:In Victoria it's legal to sleep with anyone 16 and over, and within two years if they're over 10. So I'm assuming the issue is that this happened in Sydney?
Girl met up with said players in Sydney, exchanged contact details and then met up with both separately once they had returned to Melbourne.
From all reports, the St Kilda players left Sydney almost immediately after the Round 1 match.
Furthermore, any acts between a Victorian girl and Victorian men, being investigated by Victoria Police, would be tried in a Victorian court.
Nothing illegal has happened here.
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