Hannebery unlikely to play AFL in first month of season

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Let's give Dan a couple of years before making a harsh call on his recruitment. It's not fair on anyone involved.

We all agree that we want Dan back and firing ASAP though.

[Toy Saint]

Hanneberry so far is a mistake, no one is disagreeing with that at the moment, myself included. But I will wait until the end of the year to write him off completely.

There is a big chance DH will provide great value for money over the duration of his contract term so your generalisation is factually incorrect.

If Hawthorn recruits a player with serious injury issues and rebuilds that player they are deemed as revolutionary, if we rebuild DH how will the club be viewed?

As you say let's wait and see how the process goes before we label the selection a mistake.

Hawthorn knowingly and openly recruited a player (or several) with known damage and and set about repairing them. When St Kilda recruited Hannebery, it 'sold' it's supporters an "A Grade" premium recruit, who would have an immediate and positive impact on our club.

Most of the footy world believed Hannebury was 'banged up', as has been demonstrated over the previous 2 years. It's fair to say many of our supporters were skeptical, and have questioned the clubs judgment. Many of us would be disappointed, and rightly critical of the club if we didn't even bother with a medical check.

When Hawthorn recruited O'Meara and Scully, they explained to their fans the medical risk they were taking. It appears that St Kilda on the other hand have either deliberately misled their fans or alternately they have made a poor decision as a result of the lack of due diligence.

Furthermore, my personal view is that we should be recruiting, younger and faster outside mids, and not older, slower inside types.

[SaintPav]

Let's give Dan a couple of years before making a harsh call on his recruitment. It's not fair on anyone involved.

We all agree that we want Dan back and firing ASAP though.

A couple of years?

You must be one procrastinator.

If he can't get on the park this year and play at least 6 games, he will be a bust.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Negative garbage talk. Hanners could do a knee at training this week and not play at all. It is what it is if that happens. Same as with his current comeback.

How many games did O'Mera play in his first year? 6 very ordinary ones and now he's ok.

A club has to think long term with any acquisition, not only a few months of a footy season. Same as with King and Bytel.

I wish the footy world was that very simple and lazy in writing off a player after 1 year into 5 years but it's not.

[The_Dud]

Negative garbage talk. Hanners could do a knee at training this week and not play at all. It is what it is if that happens. Same as with his current comeback.

How many games did O'Mera play in his first year? 6 very ordinary ones and now he's ok.

A club has to think long term with any acquisition, not only a few months of a footy season. Same as with King and Bytel.

I wish the footy world was that very simple and lazy in writing off a player after 1 year into 5 years but it's not.

The difference is Jager was 23 coming into his prime, while DH is 28/29 with his prime well behind him.

[sunsaint]

Negative garbage talk. Hanners could do a knee at training this week and not play at all. It is what it is if that happens. Same as with his current comeback.

How many games did O'Mera play in his first year? 6 very ordinary ones and now he's ok.

A club has to think long term with any acquisition, not only a few months of a footy season. Same as with King and Bytel.

I wish the footy world was that very simple and lazy in writing off a player after 1 year into 5 years but it's not.

Im sorry Ted but your support for DH and the clubs decision does not play out in any common sense standpoint
JOM is 25 so more a long term prospect - DH is 28 and you would reasonably expect immediate impact
But given the writing on the wall with his injury interrupted two seasons (now into the third)
The decision just smacks of a last fish in the barrel over paid, Vice captains call

Any comment on the above would be appreciated - but one last point
DH might come back in the latter half of 2019 underdone and will need another pre-season to get right up to speed
SO how would you swing it if the club announced next year they were signing a 29yr old on a 4yr contract at 800k?
(shhh we wont mention the previous 3yrs of injury)

[saintkid]

Negative garbage talk. Hanners could do a knee at training this week and not play at all. It is what it is if that happens. Same as with his current comeback.

How many games did O'Mera play in his first year? 6 very ordinary ones and now he's ok.

A club has to think long term with any acquisition, not only a few months of a footy season. Same as with King and Bytel.

I wish the footy world was that very simple and lazy in writing off a player after 1 year into 5 years but it's not.

Im sorry Ted but your support for DH and the clubs decision does not play out in any common sense standpoint
JOM is 25 so more a long term prospect - DH is 28 and you would reasonably expect immediate impact
But given the writing on the wall with his injury interrupted two seasons (now into the third)
The decision just smacks of a last fish in the barrel over paid, Vice captains call

Any comment on the above would be appreciated - but one last point
DH might come back in the latter half of 2019 underdone and will need another pre-season to get right up to speed
SO how would you swing it if the club announced next year they were signing a 29yr old on a 4yr contract at 800k?
(shhh we wont mention the previous 3yrs of injury)

Exactly, there is no common sense in the DH recruitment decision and quite frankly, still hard to believe, on all fronts, why Lethlean and co would sign an injury-ravaged 29yr old on a 5 year contract at $800k per year!

If, as some say, Lethlean pushed hard for D H, he needs to be held accountable, as St Kilda can ill afford to blow $4m with the way their finances are going.

[The_Dud]

Yep, exactly.

If ANY of our young guns leave within the next 5 years due to us not being able to offer them enough $$$, it will add to this monumental f-up and be directly on the heads of those who approved the DH signing.

[DJ Higgins]

Fairly odd points of view in here. DH might come good sure but after a year here we will know how good the decision was. We are currently being kicked in AFL.com on how to lose 400k which is true. It's almost stupid to compare O Meara to hanneberry. One young and injury known. One older and our due diligence was shocking

[SaintPav]

Negative garbage talk. Hanners could do a knee at training this week and not play at all. It is what it is if that happens. Same as with his current comeback.

How many games did O'Mera play in his first year? 6 very ordinary ones and now he's ok.

A club has to think long term with any acquisition, not only a few months of a footy season. Same as with King and Bytel.

I wish the footy world was that very simple and lazy in writing off a player after 1 year into 5 years but it's not.

No, not negative just being realistic.

Too bad you just can't hack the truth.

You’re entitled to your compromised opinion no matter how misinformed it is but so is everyone else but your logic and head in the sand attitude begars believe.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

The truth is Dan is into a 5 year deal. Do not write off a 3 x AA just yet. He will be a massive bonus when fit and firing and it's way too premature to write him off. Very dishonest in fact where reality is not being interpreted properly.

[perfectionist]

He and Jake would fit very nicely into this team at the minute.

[Joffa Burns]

He and Jake would fit very nicely into this team at the minute.

Who gets dropped for Hannebery if he is fit?

[Sainternist]

No doubt, Damien Barrett will still rattle on about the club wasting 400K, even after a 4 and 1 start. FFS!!

[SaintPav]

Barrett is a flog but they are still two separate issues..

[Saint wagga]

Best way to keep sticking it up guys like Barrett is to keep winning!! Just loving it!!

[saynta]

Saw Dan at the Tigers game, sitting with a couple of his swannie mates.

[saintbrat]

Also at Saints game prior

[Joffa Burns]

[kosifantutti]

Saw Dan at the Tigers game, sitting with a couple of his swannie mates.

He was in the rooms for Kieran Jack’s milestone game. 250?

[saynta]

Also at Saints game prior

I understand he is one of the first into our rooms after games. According to Sinclair.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Just imagine when Zak Jones and Hanners are in the midfield group next year.