Time to stop playing our oldest team

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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

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plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Adam Schneider
-------------G--B
2011 ------30.11
2011-15 --27.30

A lot of people will say he is now playing a different role which explains the dramatic drop off in goals (60% fewer goals/game). Point taken and accepted. But worth nothing that he kicked more goals in 2011 than the entire four seasons following.

But how do you explain the drop off in goal shooting accuracy (26% drop in accuracy).
My theory is being two yards slower makes you rush your shots.

Some comparisons from 2015 (15 Rounds played)

Betts 37.13
Higgins 27.16
Josh Green 19.9

I think it is easily explained. Schneider by playing more of a on ball role is probably further out when having shots at goal and secondly his legs are probably heavier because of playing an on ball role and thirdly age probably effects his accuracy. Still having a very good year and will continue to hold his spot.
I think you have to admit he had a mare yesterday though.


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Adam Schneider = the "new Raph Clarke" ?


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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

Post: # 1563754Post saynta »

saintjake wrote:Schneider, Gilbert, Geary were all really ordinary today.
Can't sugar coat it.
Geary ordinary today? Don't think so. Were you at the game? Again I don't think so.


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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Adam Schneider
-------------G--B
2011 ------30.11
2011-15 --27.30

A lot of people will say he is now playing a different role which explains the dramatic drop off in goals (60% fewer goals/game). Point taken and accepted. But worth nothing that he kicked more goals in 2011 than the entire four seasons following.

But how do you explain the drop off in goal shooting accuracy (26% drop in accuracy).
My theory is being two yards slower makes you rush your shots.

Some comparisons from 2015 (15 Rounds played)

Betts 37.13
Higgins 27.16
Josh Green 19.9

I think it is easily explained. Schneider by playing more of a on ball role is probably further out when having shots at goal and secondly his legs are probably heavier because of playing an on ball role and thirdly age probably effects his accuracy. Still having a very good year and will continue to hold his spot.
I think you have to admit he had a mare yesterday though.
He was and if it was my decision I still would not have rookied him even in hindsight but now he is on the list he is allowed the same chances as most players and IMO one bad game doesn't mean he is dropped. If he has another that may make it harder to stay in the side but if we are looking to drop an older player then Ray is ahead of him.


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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

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age effects accuracy? :shock:

so he is too old to kick goals

ok then


look i can see the opinions on ray, geary and gilbert (and you all know my comments on gilbs over the years)
they have some poor kicking skills
yes
we know that
but its the work off the ball and the hard stuff
gears especially
thats why they get games

for mine
chips will call it himself this year i think,
still bustign his ass but reckon he might hang em up and play some golf
so we need to get goddard in for a crack soon
give him a sniff at least

ray and gilbert wouldve been gone a year again if it was me
but we have not enough experienced backman if gilbs goes as well
so understand the current backline each week

if tom lee ( the oversized spud :shock: ) is playign down back at sandy whats the deal there?
is he coming into the ones as a defender?????


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matrix wrote:age effects accuracy? :shock:

so he is too old to kick goals

ok then


look i can see the opinions on ray, geary and gilbert (and you all know my comments on gilbs over the years)
they have some poor kicking skills
yes
we know that
but its the work off the ball and the hard stuff
gears especially
thats why they get games

for mine
chips will call it himself this year i think,
still bustign his ass but reckon he might hang em up and play some golf
so we need to get goddard in for a crack soon
give him a sniff at least

ray and gilbert wouldve been gone a year again if it was me
but we have not enough experienced backman if gilbs goes as well
so understand the current backline each week

if tom lee ( the oversized spud :shock: ) is playign down back at sandy whats the deal there?
is he coming into the ones as a defender?????

Yep it does because of the tiredness in the legs. What I find fascinating is your wont to find fault with posts. Probably the lack of interaction with others through the school age years. I do like some of the questions you ask though. No idea how anyone here would know the answers though.


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you


are a f****** peanut


:roll:


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matrix wrote:you


are a f****** peanut


:roll:

Just continue to prove what I said.


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that's constructive


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anthony_13 wrote:I reckon its time to play more youngsters like Mckenzie and Acres rather than fielding our oldest team. Today we looked outclassed and slow. Skills absolutely killed us.
I would much rather see us start to play the kids. Thrown in Goddard and we are yet to try out Lee in defence. Our defence is old now.


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Now is the right time for a couple of youngsters, I'd like to see Goddard if ready and Mckenzie or Eli back. Maybe Ray out. Wouldn't mind hickey having a go in lieu of longer, if only for a week or two.


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matrix wrote:you


are a f****** peanut


:roll:

A funny peanut is 66


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As in; "Salted"? "Dry roasted"? "Honey dry roasted"? or just "Raw"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

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plugger66 wrote:
matrix wrote:age effects accuracy? :shock:

so he is too old to kick goals

ok then


look i can see the opinions on ray, geary and gilbert (and you all know my comments on gilbs over the years)
they have some poor kicking skills
yes
we know that
but its the work off the ball and the hard stuff
gears especially
thats why they get games

for mine
chips will call it himself this year i think,
still bustign his ass but reckon he might hang em up and play some golf
so we need to get goddard in for a crack soon
give him a sniff at least

ray and gilbert wouldve been gone a year again if it was me
but we have not enough experienced backman if gilbs goes as well
so understand the current backline each week

if tom lee ( the oversized spud :shock: ) is playign down back at sandy whats the deal there?
is he coming into the ones as a defender?????

Yep it does because of the tiredness in the legs. What I find fascinating is your wont to find fault with posts. Probably the lack of interaction with others through the school age years. I do like some of the questions you ask though. No idea how anyone here would know the answers though.
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Re: Time to stop playing our oldest team

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plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:Adam Schneider
-------------G--B
2011 ------30.11
2011-15 --27.30

A lot of people will say he is now playing a different role which explains the dramatic drop off in goals (60% fewer goals/game). Point taken and accepted. But worth nothing that he kicked more goals in 2011 than the entire four seasons following.

But how do you explain the drop off in goal shooting accuracy (26% drop in accuracy).
My theory is being two yards slower makes you rush your shots.

Some comparisons from 2015 (15 Rounds played)

Betts 37.13
Higgins 27.16
Josh Green 19.9

I think it is easily explained. Schneider by playing more of a on ball role is probably further out when having shots at goal and secondly his legs are probably heavier because of playing an on ball role and thirdly age probably effects his accuracy. Still having a very good year and will continue to hold his spot.
It is 'easy' to explain if you want to find a way to explain it but 27.31 in 5 years is just poor conversion plain and simple.

If you want to come up with some reason about 'distance out' then it is simply poor decision making to shoot from there.


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He can't play fwd. He can't play midfield. He can't play back. It's ruck or retire.


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#gosaintas wrote:He can't play fwd. He can't play midfield. He can't play back. It's ruck or retire.
Did he bang your missus or something?

Thought it was hilarious today. you screaming for him to be substituted after halftime, he was instrumental in two out of the first three goals in the third quarter.

Made you look so foolish. But then again.......


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
#gosaintas wrote:He can't play fwd. He can't play midfield. He can't play back. It's ruck or retire.

he was instrumental in two out of the first three goals in the third quarter.


Cool story bro

He will be gone soon and I will be happy to see the little spud out of the side.


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#gosaintas wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
#gosaintas wrote:He can't play fwd. He can't play midfield. He can't play back. It's ruck or retire.

he was instrumental in two out of the first three goals in the third quarter.


Cool story bro

He will be gone soon and I will be happy to see the little spud out of the side.

This site is fantastic. We have a game where we can win and 7 people hope we lose and now a person calling a guy who has given everything for the club a little spud. Makes you wonder when some people will every be happy. Schneider will not be dropped this week and I hope we win.


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Adam Schnieder has given me heartburn from time to time with misses on goal. However, this is FAR outweighed by all the effort and loyalty he has given to the club. I reckon some folk should just get on with SUPPORTING our players!


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thejiggingsaint wrote:Adam Schnieder has given me heartburn from time to time with misses on goal. However, this is FAR outweighed by all the effort and loyalty he has given to the club. I reckon some folk should just get on with SUPPORTING our players!
So they should.


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magnifisaint wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:Adam Schnieder has given me heartburn from time to time with misses on goal. However, this is FAR outweighed by all the effort and loyalty he has given to the club. I reckon some folk should just get on with SUPPORTING our players!
So they should.
Those who can't are indeed the real spuds.


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Dr Spaceman wrote:
magnifisaint wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:Adam Schnieder has given me heartburn from time to time with misses on goal. However, this is FAR outweighed by all the effort and loyalty he has given to the club. I reckon some folk should just get on with SUPPORTING our players!
So they should.
Those who can't are indeed the real spuds.

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