Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625745Post Tom_Sainter »

Percentage means we are really 3 games out. In the run home I think we will beat North, Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane. That will give us 12 wins and I'm sure most supporters would have taken that at the start of the year. Finals next year are looking a big chance, only problem is in the coming years GWS and GC still have a mountain of first round picks to come so will be difficult to knock them off anytime soon


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625748Post Jacks Back »

Tom_Sainter wrote:Percentage means we are really 3 games out. In the run home I think we will beat North, Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane. That will give us 12 wins and I'm sure most supporters would have taken that at the start of the year. Finals next year are looking a big chance, only problem is in the coming years GWS and GC still have a mountain of first round picks to come so will be difficult to knock them off anytime soon
Plus if we finish in the middle 6 on the ladder then we are going to get a harder FIXture next year.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625822Post Beno88 »

The scenario is most likely this…

North should beat Collingwood, but lose to Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS. Excluding the St Kilda game North are 11-10.

Port should beat Brisbane and Melbourne, but lose to Sydney, GWS and Adelaide. Gold Coast at Metricon is 50-50. Lose that and they’ll finish 10-12.

St Kilda should beat Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane, but lose to Bulldogs and Sydney. Excluding the North game St Kilda are 11-10.

So if results go as expected, the winner of St Kilda vs North Melbourne finishes 8th, providing Gold Coast beat Port. Port win, it comes down to percentage, which favours them.

In short, St Kilda need to win a minimum of three more games. Do that, North win no more and Port win two or less, we play finals.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625827Post samuraisaint »

Gold Coast won't win another game this year. No Ablett and Rischitelli. Can't beat Port for mine.


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Post: # 1625876Post Playon »

Beno88 wrote:The scenario is most likely this…

North should beat Collingwood, but lose to Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS. Excluding the St Kilda game North are 11-10.

Port should beat Brisbane and Melbourne, but lose to Sydney, GWS and Adelaide. Gold Coast at Metricon is 50-50. Lose that and they’ll finish 10-12.

St Kilda should beat Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane, but lose to Bulldogs and Sydney. Excluding the North game St Kilda are 11-10.

So if results go as expected, the winner of St Kilda vs North Melbourne finishes 8th, providing Gold Coast beat Port. Port win, it comes down to percentage, which favours them.

In short, St Kilda need to win a minimum of three more games. Do that, North win no more and Port win two or less, we play finals.
Well I'm not convinced yet that we can't beat North but would require us to play our best footy. they've fallen in a hole and our inconsistencies make it difficult to pick.We need to keep winning and its up to them to keep losing.

So have we improved since we played them last?

It almost seems unbelievable to be considering finals, pinch me when we get there


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625879Post kosifantutti »

Beno88 wrote:The scenario is most likely this…

North should beat Collingwood, but lose to Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS. Excluding the St Kilda game North are 11-10.

Port should beat Brisbane and Melbourne, but lose to Sydney, GWS and Adelaide. Gold Coast at Metricon is 50-50. Lose that and they’ll finish 10-12.

St Kilda should beat Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane, but lose to Bulldogs and Sydney. Excluding the North game St Kilda are 11-10.

So if results go as expected, the winner of St Kilda vs North Melbourne finishes 8th, providing Gold Coast beat Port. Port win, it comes down to percentage, which favours them.

In short, St Kilda need to win a minimum of three more games. Do that, North win no more and Port win two or less, we play finals.
On your predictions we are 12-10 if we beat North, so we would still be a game ahead of Port if they beat the Suns.


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Post: # 1625884Post citywest »

It all comes down to this weeks game against the dogs. It is our Elimination Final. If we win we will play finals IMHO because with this win under our belts we will also roll North the following week. Which incidentally is North's home game but at Etihad Stadium. :shock: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625888Post Beno88 »

kosifantutti wrote:
Beno88 wrote:The scenario is most likely this…

North should beat Collingwood, but lose to Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS. Excluding the St Kilda game North are 11-10.

Port should beat Brisbane and Melbourne, but lose to Sydney, GWS and Adelaide. Gold Coast at Metricon is 50-50. Lose that and they’ll finish 10-12.

St Kilda should beat Carlton, Richmond and Brisbane, but lose to Bulldogs and Sydney. Excluding the North game St Kilda are 11-10.

So if results go as expected, the winner of St Kilda vs North Melbourne finishes 8th, providing Gold Coast beat Port. Port win, it comes down to percentage, which favours them.

In short, St Kilda need to win a minimum of three more games. Do that, North win no more and Port win two or less, we play finals.
On your predictions we are 12-10 if we beat North, so we would still be a game ahead of Port if they beat the Suns.
Good point. If we simply win more games than Port from here, we finish above them.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625940Post samuraisaint »

Both North Melbourne and Port Adelaide are better sides than us - this year. With Carlisle at CHB and a fit Freeman playing at his potential they may not be in 2017. Same with Richmond.
We should go okay against the Bulldogs, but really don't think we can win it. They played in Cairns on Saturday so the tropics may have taken a bit out of them and I expect us to remain competitive.
North should easily account for Collingwood on Friday night. North don't usually lose games they should win against lowly sides.
I think we have done very well to have won as many as we have already.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625942Post bigcarl »

I wouldn't worry too much about finals. Just try to win every game. Of course if the opportunity presents itself then take it. Let's face it, no one expected it of St Kilda this season. Least of all the fans


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samuraisaint wrote:Both North Melbourne and Port Adelaide are better sides than us - this year. With Carlisle at CHB and a fit Freeman playing at his potential they may not be in 2017. Same with Richmond.
We should go okay against the Bulldogs, but really don't think we can win it. They played in Cairns on Saturday so the tropics may have taken a bit out of them and I expect us to remain competitive.
North should easily account for Collingwood on Friday night. North don't usually lose games they should win against lowly sides.
I think we have done very well to have won as many as we have already.
Agree 100% to be honest it is just refreshing to be in with a mathematical chance however would be shocked if we did get in. Even if we finish outside the 8 a strong finish is important, I remember we finished 2003 really strongly even though we missed the finals and that translated to a blistering start in 2004, additionally if we miss the 8 we will get an easier draw next year. If we can win 3-4 more games this year its been a hugely sucessfull year, the only blight those horrible away games.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1625967Post saintspremiers »

Again, we have not won 3 games in a row since 2012 I believe, and people think we are going to have this massive form consistency out of nowhere for 8 rounds in a row (if you include the last 2 wins). It ain't going to happen, but saying that the really big games left for us are the next two weeks.


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saintspremiers wrote:Again, we have not won 3 games in a row since 2012 I believe, and people think we are going to have this massive form consistency out of nowhere for 8 rounds in a row (if you include the last 2 wins). It ain't going to happen, but saying that the really big games left for us are the next two weeks.
We've won six out of the last eight. It's not such a stretch to say we can win four of our next six.


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Actually think the pies will roll North this week, I think North are really feeling the pressure they rely too much on Goldstien who has to be injured atm. If we can play our best footy we will be some possibility of rolling them. Either way this weekend will be finals like pressure and good experience mooobing forward. Our best is good enough. As I have said before if we are prepared to work harder than our opponents we have a very good chance of victory.


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Post: # 1625974Post George27 »

It is great to be in the conversation. Last night on 360 the lead story was the reopening of the 8, with NM on the slide and Port and us as the legitimate challengers. Accepted as a given that we are entitled to be there, ahead of Rich, Coll, Carl, Melb. Robbo even said he liked our style of footy. We are still a long way short of the top echelon,but overall the progression this year has been encouraging.


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Post: # 1625976Post saintspremiers »

We won against the Dee's due to pressure acts and high pressure footy that resulted in turnover possession like the Cats game.

Can we back it up this week against the Dogs?

One of the keys is Nate Wright, our human cannonball, being fit. He's a bit of barometer for that "style" of footy which is what will get us across the line in big games


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Post: # 1625981Post bigcarl »

The most important thing is that we finish this season better than last when we bowed out with tail between the legs, the victims of a couple of floggings


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1626004Post terry smith rules »

I see in the HS that Champion Data rate us a 6% chance of making the 8, this equates to odds of 16-1

The TAB is offering $21 or 20-1, a touch of overs

I think I might have something on at that price

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saintspremiers wrote:We won against the Dee's due to pressure acts and high pressure footy that resulted in turnover possession like the Cats game.
Can we back it up this week against the Dogs?

One of the keys is Nate Wright, our human cannonball, being fit. He's a bit of barometer for that "style" of footy which is what will get us across the line in big games
Need Wright and Mav to shut down Johanissen and co with their run off halfback. Wright good match up for Jojo. Also need to keep Wood accountable, can't have him peeling off taking intercept marks like last time we played them. Need to keep our forwards as one on one as possible. Stringer,Campbell, Adams all out are good for us. Hickey should have the ascendancy in the ruck and we'll need that first use. Im quietly confident about this one. Doggies havnt been as good lately. Think injuries could be catching up with them now.


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Gold Coast
Hawks
North

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Damn.


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No.


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1626110Post saintspremiers »

The_President wrote:Gold Coast
Hawks
North

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Damn.
I'm not worried about the Norf & Hawks games. At least we played at our best.

I'm still worried about our interstate issues, regardless of what happens from here on in. I'm not sure how the club can tackle it for next season. Maybe we need a month intestate or something during the pre season.

We are not Collingwood and guaranteed of only 5 interstate games each year!


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Post: # 1626152Post thejiggingsaint »

Its always great to be in with a shout of a top eight finish, and this season (inconsistent as it has been) reminds me VERY much of 2003, when we turned a corner in performances toward season's end. Realistically, we are not top 8 material, but by the same token, all we can do is win games, and if other results have a bearing, then (IMHO) "stranger things have occurred". I for one, have found reasons to be quietly optimistic about our prospects going forward. (one week at a time)


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Re: Win tomorrow and we are 2 games out of the 8

Post: # 1626154Post samoht »

saintspremiers wrote:We won against the Dee's due to pressure acts and high pressure footy that resulted in turnover possession like the Cats game.
One of the keys is Nate Wright, our human cannonball, being fit. He's a bit of barometer for that "style" of footy which is what will get us across the line in big games
Wright is a bit light in the body .... so I see him as more like a harasser/gadfly than a human cannonball -- which is still okay. You can still get turn-overs that way.
Anyway, I think we are well stocked with several genuine human cannonballs.
I'd like to see Wright concentrate on putting his whippet-like body to its intended use - which is to provide valuable run and dash to break lines.


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George27 wrote:It is great to be in the conversation. Last night on 360 the lead story was the reopening of the 8, with NM on the slide and Port and us as the legitimate challengers. Accepted as a given that we are entitled to be there, ahead of Rich, Coll, Carl, Melb. Robbo even said he liked our style of footy. We are still a long way short of the top echelon,but overall the progression this year has been encouraging.

360 and that fat head Robbo are a joke.

Had us playing Collingwood in round 21.


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