List vacancies

[outside66]

Does anyone know how many list spots we currently have available - both senior and rookie?

With McCartin now being delisted, does that suggest we might have an eye on a delisted FA and if so, who could we be after?

[SaintJohn1956]

Would it be worth giving Bennell or Sam Murray a chance?

[Stian]

Would it be worth giving Bennell or Sam Murray a chance?

I reckon taking Bennell is a no-brainer. His body is close to right (if not completely OK) and he would have a good stable atmosphere around him at the Saints.

[Beno88]

11 senior list and 1 rookie have been delisted/retired/traded. (including Paddy)

5 senior players added so far.

I think Joyce will need to be upgraded. Wilkie may also be upgraded.

That would leave 4 senior list and 3 rookie list vacancies.

I think we have 3 National Draft selections at this stage?

[Joffa Burns]

Would it be worth giving Bennell or Sam Murray a chance?

Both good enough to play AFL but both have had issues.
Murray would be up against Geary, Savage, Webster, Paton, Clarke & Coffield. Probably not what we need.

Bennell would be against Gresham, Billings, Lonie, Kent, Parker, Butler, Long & Hind as a high forward, doubt he’s a mid now. He’d be an upgrade on Kent, Lonie, Parker, Hind if fit and mentally switched on.

If fit and switched on both are better than many on our list at the moment.

[on the outer]

11 senior list and 1 rookie have been delisted/retired/traded. (including Paddy)

5 senior players added so far.

I think Joyce will need to be upgraded. Wilkie may also be upgraded.

That would leave 4 senior list and 3 rookie list vacancies.

I think we have 3 National Draft selections at this stage?

My reading of the situation was that we were three over the limit due to inclusions during the year (Rowe, Marsh and Mayo).

So I think with the delisting of Paddy we have 3 Senior list spots and 1 rookie list spot. The mix could change if we upgrade a rookie (eg. Wilkie).

[ace]

11 senior list and 1 rookie have been delisted/retired/traded. (including Paddy)

5 senior players added so far.

I think Joyce will need to be upgraded. Wilkie may also be upgraded.

That would leave 4 senior list and 3 rookie list vacancies.

I think we have 3 National Draft selections at this stage?

My understanding is that Joyce can only remain a rookie after being a rookie for 3 years if he survives the National draft.
IF no other club takes him then he can be relisted as a rookie.
He has a contract with St Kilda until the end of 2021.
Alternately St Kilda can upgrade him to the senior list leaving behind a rookie vacancy.

[ace]

11 senior list and 1 rookie have been delisted/retired/traded. (including Paddy)

5 senior players added so far.

I think Joyce will need to be upgraded. Wilkie may also be upgraded.

That would leave 4 senior list and 3 rookie list vacancies.

I think we have 3 National Draft selections at this stage?

My reading of the situation was that we were three over the limit due to inclusions during the year (Rowe, Marsh and Mayo).

So I think with the delisting of Paddy we have 3 Senior list spots and 1 rookie list spot. The mix could change if we upgrade a rookie (eg. Wilkie).

Marsh and Rowe went on the senior list but Mayo went on the rookie list.

We started the year with 40 senior players 4 rookie A and 1 rookie B plus 2 rookie B vacancies.
Marsh and Rowe increased the seniors to 42 and Mayo the rookie A to 5.
We must reduce the number of seniors to 37 thus allowing 3 places for rookie upgrades or national draft picks and the rookie A to 4.

We have added 5 seniors via trade Butler, Hill, Howard, Jones & Ryder = 47 seniors
We have lost 11 seniors = Acres, Armitage, Bruce, Longer, McCartin, Newnes, Rice, Rowe, Steven, White & Young = 36 seniors
We have lost 1 rookie A = Pierce = 4 rookie A

Consequently there are 4 vacancies
At present these are all senior vacancies but up to 4 rookies in theory could be upgraded leaving no national draft picks.

Draft picks 51, 82, 100 & 118 have been activated.
These will become deactivated for each rookie upgraded thus converting a national draft pick into a rookie pick.
These would be 5, 23, 41, 59 but each only activated by rookie upgrade.

If Joyce is not upgraded he must go into the National draft but if not taken he would be relisted by StKilda as a rookie A ahead of the rookie draft to fill out his remaining two year contract.

We will still have 2 rookie B vacancies.

The club could fill one but only one of the senior vacancies with a delisted free agent, and reducing the number of senior draft picks by one.