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The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Feel free to add to the list.

MOIVE TO SEAFORD: Archie Fraser throws a hissy-fit over the Council's rejection of a few pokie machines and hi-ho we're off to Seaford in a multi-million dollar fiasco.

ANDREW LOVETT: Sheeds and Hird said he was ripper bloke so why be sceptical?

SCOTT WATTERS OVER KEN HINKLEY

TOM LEE: Because we desperately needed someone to replace Roo and this mature age reject played a good game in the WAFL once.

SEE YA LATER GODDARD, DAL SANTO and BIG BOY McEVOY: It's a ruthless game these days and who needs heart-and-soul players?

ALAN RICHARDSON OVER A PLANK OF WOOD

EXTENDING RICHO'S CONTRACT FOR NO GOOD REASON

PADDY McCARTIN OVER CHRISTIAN PETRACCA: No hindsight required, it was always lunacy.

JACK LONIE OVER CALEB DANIEL: MInd you, I wouldn't have known who Daniel was if the Saints hadn't talked him up as potential second-round pick.

BILLINGS OVER THE BONT

THE PELICAN AND THE TROUT: Nuff said.

DAN HANNEBURY

BRAD HILL


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Walking out on Tassie

Letting Luke Ball walk for Zip

Not having the balls to recruit Cousins

The 2009 trade period

Every trade period Pelican was involved in

Allowing Ross Lyon to walk

The development of Armitage, Steven, Stanley, Lynch in 2009-2011 period


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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B.M wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 12:13am Walking out on Tassie

Letting Luke Ball walk for Zip

Not having the balls to recruit Cousins

The 2009 trade period

Every trade period Pelican was involved in

Allowing Ross Lyon to walk

The development of Armitage, Steven, Stanley, Lynch in 2009-2011 period
Well... I’m with you on this one

Tassie and Cousins in particular


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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I think Watters may have been aloof etc., but that he may have been harshly judged in hindsight.

Our biggest blunder was surrendering the opportunity to come home to the Junction Oval and make our St Kilda, our St Kilda.

Australia blew it in 1996. They could have become a Republic. We had a chance too. We let Eddie and Co. and Cricket steam roll us.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Caleb Daniel was gone before we picked up Lonie.


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Trading Russell Greene and letting Val Perovic go.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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SaintPav wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 2:21am Trading Russell Greene and letting Val Perovic go.
Seconded.

Especially Val Perovic.. it hurt bad to see VP do so well at Carlton. With RG, I always was happy for him. Such a brilliant guy.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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SaintPav wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 2:19am Caleb Daniel was gone before we picked up Lonie.
Nope.

41 Jack Lonie St Kilda Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
3 42 Billy Stretch Melbourne Glenelg SANFL Father-son rule selection – son of Steven Stretch
3 43 Mitch McGovern Adelaide Claremont WAFL Traded from Hawthorn; received from Greater Western Sydney
3 44 Liam Dawson Brisbane Lions Aspley NEAFL Academy player
3 45 Bailey Dale Western Bulldogs Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
3 46 Caleb Daniel Western Bulldogs South Adelaide SANFL Traded by Carlton


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Its a circus


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Disagree on the Bont until someone can show me the thread where everyone was pushing for Bontempelli to go at Pick 3. I only recall someone saying he's Dal's cousin. Hardly an endorsement with our record of familial selections or lack there of.

The biggest disappointment about the Cousins saga was we had pushed Harves out the door to then turn around and try to get Cousins. Absolutely no logic in that.

Agree with the rest though.👍


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Making Eric Banna our number 1 ticket holder


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 4:08am
SaintPav wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 2:19am Caleb Daniel was gone before we picked up Lonie.
Nope.

41 Jack Lonie St Kilda Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
3 42 Billy Stretch Melbourne Glenelg SANFL Father-son rule selection – son of Steven Stretch
3 43 Mitch McGovern Adelaide Claremont WAFL Traded from Hawthorn; received from Greater Western Sydney
3 44 Liam Dawson Brisbane Lions Aspley NEAFL Academy player
3 45 Bailey Dale Western Bulldogs Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
3 46 Caleb Daniel Western Bulldogs South Adelaide SANFL Traded by Carlton
f****** Trout..


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Ghost Like wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 7:14am Disagree on the Bont until someone can show me the thread where everyone was pushing for Bontempelli to go at Pick 3. I only recall someone saying he's Dal's cousin. Hardly an endorsement with our record of familial selections or lack there of.

The biggest disappointment about the Cousins saga was we had pushed Harves out the door to then turn around and try to get Cousins. Absolutely no logic in that.

Agree with the rest though.👍
Cousins could still cover the ground
Harvs was cooked and lost a yard that last season


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Agree on Harves

It was time


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

Post: # 1896803Post Scollop »

When will the AFL come in with some decent football administrators and give us half a chance?

If we aren’t competitive there will be consequences and we won’t be spared.

The business of AFL is about change and they have to grow to compete against other sports

We can’t expect the AFL to keep propping up the weaker teams forever

It’s not unrealistic to see changes in another decade from now

Maybe Saints and Suns merging and maybe the Hawks based out of Tassie and maybe North merging with Melbourne


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Teflon wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 9:08am
Ghost Like wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 7:14am Disagree on the Bont until someone can show me the thread where everyone was pushing for Bontempelli to go at Pick 3. I only recall someone saying he's Dal's cousin. Hardly an endorsement with our record of familial selections or lack there of.

The biggest disappointment about the Cousins saga was we had pushed Harves out the door to then turn around and try to get Cousins. Absolutely no logic in that.

Agree with the rest though.👍
Cousins could still cover the ground
Harvs was cooked and lost a yard that last season
I'll disagree, check Harves stats for his last season & Cousins stats for Richmond. I'm confident they compare favourably.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Thought Stats aren’t everything???

Cousins was 29 in 2009
Harvey was 38


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I’d have kept Harvey on the list... he was still playing well enough

Imagine the 09 GF...
Out - Dempster and McQualter as defensive forwards... in Harvey and Cousins instead. We’d have won by 15 goals

Harvey would have done the job


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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You have pull curtains on your career at some stage

Maybe Harves had had enough?


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B.M wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 11:30am Thought Stats aren’t everything???

Cousins was 29 in 2009
Harvey was 38
No Browlow votes & B&Fs aren't everything. Stats also can be deceiving but not in this case.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Lots of blunders alright. I remember the talk around time we recruited PaddyMcC, that we needed to build a decent midfield, but instead we opted for a lumbering forward who had pre-existing health issues- still haven't built a good enough midfield when most other clubs have been hard at it. Recycled players with nothing to prove, or chronic injuries are not the basis of building playing lists. A big minus to Lethlean and co.
I think Lyon was offered more money than the Saints could match? A classic tale of the tail wagging the dog when Watters got the flick, very weak leadership from the top, but enough been said on that. Richo didn't develop enough younger players considering he was brought on board in part due to strong development skills?
This season's pathetic efforts are a culmination of bad decisions over recent years.


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Brownlow and B&Fs aren’t anything

Let’s see
Our last Brownlow Medallist’s
R.Harvey, T.Lockett, I.Stewart
They could play a bit!

To win a Brownlow, you must be alright, or at the very least had a cracking season!!!

B&Fs
To win a B&F at an AFL club is a massive achievement regardless!
You have been voted by coaches as the best player (of 40 odd list AFL players) over the course of a season!

No duds win those


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B.M wrote: Fri 16 Apr 2021 12:26pm Brownlow and B&Fs aren’t anything

Let’s see
Our last Brownlow Medallist’s
R.Harvey, T.Lockett, I.Stewart
They could play a bit!

To win a Brownlow, you must be alright, or at the very least had a cracking season!!!

B&Fs
To win a B&F at an AFL club is a massive achievement regardless!
You have been voted by coaches as the best player (of 40 odd list AFL players) over the course of a season!

No duds win those
Use the quote function, that way you won't misquote. I said "aren't everything", not "aren't anything". I also said Brownlow votes, not the actual Brownlow.


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Hmm to get a Brownlow vote

You are judged in the top 3 players on the ground in a game of League Footy

I’d take that

To have 40 odd like Seb Ross - would be even nicer


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Re: The Biggest Blunders Since 2008

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Sounds like your clutching at straws?...

Trying to prove what point??

“Stats can be deceiving” depends when it suits I suppose?!


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