Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

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Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1928996Post axcellence »

One "AA Quality" but never AA Defender who played 66 games
One injury prone but quality player

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A player who was a fringe player but turned himself into an actual AA this year


What do you guys think?


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1928999Post kosifantutti »

I think you mis spelled and over rated Aaron Francis.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929001Post saynta »

kosifantutti wrote: Wed 29 Sep 2021 12:05pm I think you mis spelled and over rated Aaron Francis.
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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929002Post B.M »

We won that deal due to a good draft selection at 18. Gresham is top ten quality and a revised draft would have him there. Carlisle a quality key defender. If you asked this question a few years ago we would be laughing all the way to the bank!!!

A back injury to Carlisle and Achilles to Gresham and a break out Year by Parish swings it back toward Essendon but if Gresham gets over his injury, I believe he will become an A Grade mid/fwd

BTW Parish wasn’t a fringe player, he was playing in dead mans corner (HF)
He got an opportunity when Sheil went down and took it
He’s a good player - as a top 5 pick should be.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929003Post Mr Magic »

How many times do we need to set the record straight with this?
Essendope selected Parish with their own draft pick
Our on-traded draft pick was used by them for Francis.
Parish would not have been available to us.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929004Post B.M »

Yes, of course

Then we easily won that trade

Gresham > Francis


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929013Post CURLY »

axcellence wrote: Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:59am One "AA Quality" but never AA Defender who played 66 games
One injury prone but quality player

vs
A player who was a fringe player but turned himself into an actual AA this year


What do you guys think?
David King how many times do you need to be told.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929014Post outside66 »

CURLY wrote: Wed 29 Sep 2021 1:46pm
axcellence wrote: Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:59am One "AA Quality" but never AA Defender who played 66 games
One injury prone but quality player

vs
A player who was a fringe player but turned himself into an actual AA this year


What do you guys think?
David King how many times do you need to be told.
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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929051Post Moods »

Don’t care what anyone thinks, but Carlisle was a huge disappointment. Rarely if ever was in our best players. Could only take marks mainly uncontested. Provided no run nor was he capable of setting anything up. Was slow and immobile and some on here fell for his tough guy persona whereas he was quite the opposite. Give me Sam Fisher any day of the week. Essendon supporters said he was a sook and they weren’t wrong


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929058Post B.M »

100% agree

Carlisle was massively overrated. The perception of him was very different to the reality!!!


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929062Post SydneySainter »

axcellence wrote: Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:59am One "AA Quality" but never AA Defender who played 66 games
One injury prone but quality player

vs
A player who was a fringe player but turned himself into an actual AA this year


What do you guys think?
Obviously would have preferred Parish...shame he wouldn’t have been available, even if we kept that pick 😳


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929234Post saintsRrising »

Well the question is with our actual pick at SIX who would we have taken?

Francis which is what Essendon used?

I am pretty sure that on the day of the draft that someone, who was near Finnis, claimed we rated Gresham as pick 6 anyway. If so we got Carlisle for free.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929238Post kosifantutti »

saintsRrising wrote:Well the question is with our actual pick at SIX who would we have taken?

Francis which is what Essendon used?

I am pretty sure that on the day of the draft that someone, who was near Finnis, claimed we rated Gresham as pick 6 anyway. If so we got Carlisle for free.
Every club official in the history of the draft has talked up the value of the players they have just drafted.

I’m sure someone at the club said “I can’t believe Justin Koschitzke was still available at 2”


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929242Post ausfatcat »

saintsRrising wrote: Thu 30 Sep 2021 10:57pm Well the question is with our actual pick at SIX who would we have taken?

Even with Hindsight in that draft if we used our pick 6 I would maybe think about taking Harry Mckay or Jacob Hopper before Gresham


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929243Post B.M »

Wasn’t Jacob Hopper an academy pick for GWS??


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929247Post ausfatcat »

B.M wrote: Fri 01 Oct 2021 12:02am Wasn’t Jacob Hopper an academy pick for GWS??
Yes he was, so only Harry McKay as a maybe.


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929361Post samuraisaint »

The Gresh Prince all the way!


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Re: Carlisle and Gresham vs Darcy Parish

Post: # 1929390Post Sainter_Dad »

ausfatcat wrote: Fri 01 Oct 2021 12:31am
B.M wrote: Fri 01 Oct 2021 12:02am Wasn’t Jacob Hopper an academy pick for GWS??
Yes he was, so only Harry McKay as a maybe.
That would have been a no to McKay as we had invested in Paddy


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