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Post: # 1952971Post meher baba »

I don't choose to give any of my money to Rupert, so could someone please provide more details about this?


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Would be good to see the article, I too refuse to pay Murdoch Media for anything.


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Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.


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Post: # 1952974Post axcellence »

NGA rule changes means no matching for top 40. Saints and Melbourne had one kid who could be in top 40…. So no luck this year after Owens and Windhager.


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Post: # 1952978Post kosifantutti »

Dudded not duded.

“ Clubs are unable to match rival NGA bids inside the first 40 picks of the 2022 draft – up from the top 20 last year – with Finn Emile-Brennan (tied to Demons) and Cam MacKenzie (Saints) surging into second-round calculations after impressive starts to the NAB League season.”


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Post: # 1952983Post happy feet »

saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Couldn’t really care less but maybe you should consider posting something everyone can read.


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saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.


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Why can't I have everything I want but not pay for it.


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meher baba wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:01pm I don't choose to give any of my money to Rupert, so could someone please provide more details about this?
Here you go!!!!!!

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A change in Next Generation Academy rules appears set to deny Melbourne and St Kilda the chance to snare two promising draft prospects who are rising fast, including a distributing defender likened to young Demons sensation Jake Bowey.

Clubs are unable to match rival NGA bids inside the first 40 picks of the 2022 draft – up from the top 20 last year – with Finn Emile-Brennan (tied to Demons) and Cam MacKenzie (Saints) surging into second-round calculations after impressive starts to the NAB League season.

Academy rules first changed last year after the Western Bulldogs secured exciting NGA tall Jamarra Ugle-Hagan with the No.1 pick in the 2020 national draft by matching Adelaide’s bid.

St Kilda was a major beneficiary from its NGA program last year with midfield pair Mitch Owens (pick 33) and Marcus Windhager (47) joining the club through the national draft, along with Jack Peris and Josiah Kyle as rookies.

Marcus Windhager was one of the Saints’ NGA recruits last year. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Marcus Windhager was one of the Saints’ NGA recruits last year. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Defender Emile-Brennan, who qualifies as an NGA through his Mauritian mother, has been compared to Jake Bowey by his Dandenong Stingrays coach Nick Cox for his slender build and traits, with the 181cm, 62kg defender possessing elite kicking and poise under pressure.

Called up to the Vic Country line-up by popular demand to face the Young Guns side, the Stingray tallied 25 disposals including 19 kicks (at 78.9 per cent efficiency), five intercepts and 120 SuperCoach points in his most recent NAB League outing against the Geelong Falcons.

And as his draft stocks rise, the chances of him joining Bowey in the Demons’ defence decreases.

Finn Emile-Brennan has been likened to Melbourne defender Jake Bowey. Picture: AFL Photos
Finn Emile-Brennan has been likened to Melbourne defender Jake Bowey. Picture: AFL Photos
Jake Bowey is renowned for his elite ball use. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Jake Bowey is renowned for his elite ball use. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Meanwhile, 187cm prospect MacKenzie has improved with every game he’s played for the Sandringham Dragons, spending more time in the midfield alongside No.1 contender Will Ashcroft and averaging 21.8 disposals and 8.5 score involvements per game.

The Brighton Grammar product boasts strong athletic traits, is clean at ground level and makes good decisions with ball in hand.

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Dandenong Stingrays midfielder Jai Culley is firming to be selected in next month’s mid-season draft as interest ramps up from AFL clubs.

The 192cm inside midfielder has been nominated by 13 clubs to play for the Young Guns side, featuring 23 eligible mid-season draft hopefuls from Victoria who will take on Vic Metro and Vic Country across the next two weekends.

SCROLL DOWN TO SEE THE FULL SQUADS AND CLUB NOMINATIONS

Culley burst out of the blocks in his first two NAB League games this season, – averaging 24.5 disposals and two goals – before sitting out the last three matches with a minor shoulder injury, but the setback has done nothing to deter clubs.

Playing predominantly as a medium forward last year, a blistering off-season has seen Culley transform into a bullocking midfielder who can hit the scoreboard, having the scope to make an impact this year.

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Jai Culley is in the sights of clubs. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Jai Culley is in the sights of clubs. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Sandringham Dragons pair Max Ramsden, an athletic 202cm ruckman and Hugo Kall-Kahan, a speedy goal kicker, have generated strong interest with both put forward by 16 clubs to play in the representative matches – the most of any in the squad.

Ramsden is in the mould of Dragons export and 2021 No.1 mid-season draft pick Jacob Edwards as a late-developing tall, possessing a remarkable tank that enables him to become an extra midfielder around the ground.

Smooth moving Western Jets defender Massimo D’Ambrossio, who has featured at VFL level for Richmond this year, has been nominated by 13 clubs after an impressive start to the year, averaging 27.8 disposals and 18.8 kicks at 76 per cent efficiency.

The other players nominated by 10 or more clubs include Bendigo Pioneers midfielder Oskar Faulkhead, GWV Rebels ball-winner Jamieson Ballantyne, and Murray Bushrangers talls Fletcher Hart and Ryan Eyers.

Jamieson Ballantyne is among the overlooked draft hopefuls in the squad. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Jamieson Ballantyne is among the overlooked draft hopefuls in the squad. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
The Young Guns side features overlooked 2021 draft prospects Ballantyne, Tyreece Leiu, who trained with Carlton over the summer for a list spot, Corey Preston and Charlie Molan.

Midfielder Zavier Maher, who was considered unlucky to be left on the board in the 2020 draft and is now playing for Carlton’s VFL side, is also among the squad.

The Young Guns’ clash against Vic Metro kicks off at 4:30pm at Avalon Airport Oval in Werribee

The Young Guns will face off against Vic Metro on Saturday at Werribee’s Avalon Airport Oval at 4:30pm, and clash with Vic Country on Sunday Sunday May 15th.

YOUNG GUNS SQUAD
Number SURNAME FIRSTNAME DOB HT WT COMMUNITY CLUB NAB LEAGUE REGION Total Nominations
1 D'Ambrossio Massimo 5/06/2003 178 78 Point Cook Western Jets 13
2 Gallagher Harvey 26/09/2003 177 72 Sandhurst Bendigo Pioneers 7
3 Cross Paddy 14/02/2003 181 70 Nar Nar Goon Gippsland Power 6
4 Hollard Euriah 11/03/2003 175 70 Newtown & Chilwell Geelong Falcons 5
5 Moschetti Mitchell 13/09/2003 177 71 Phillip Island FNC Gippsland Power 4
6 Norton Tyler 8/05/2003 184 86 Wangaratta Magpies Murray Bushrangers 6
7 Faulkhead Oskar 11/02/2003 179 75 Wentworth Bendigo Pioneers 11
8 Preston Corey 18/12/2002 182 76 East Ringwood / EFNL Williamstown VFL 7
9 Walton Max 6/11/2003 182 76 Phillip Island Gippsland Power 6
10 Ballantyne Jamieson 16/04/2003 183 78 Portland FC GWV Rebels 10
11 Molan Charlie 23/01/2003 187 86 Williamstown GWV Rebels 5
12 Maher Zavier 5/05/2002 185 85 Shepparton United Carlton VFL 5
13 Carrigan Lachlan 9/12/2002 191 78 Hampton Rovers Richmond VFL 7
14 Hall-Kahan Hugo 22/09/2003 188 78 Old Haileybury Sandringham Dragons 16
15 Rule Jed 10/06/2003 191 79 Box Hill Hawks Oakleigh Chargers 9
16 Leiu Tyreece 14/04/2003 194 91 Rowville FC Eastern Ranges 9
17 Culley Jai 24/02/2003 193 87 Langwarrin FC Dandenong Stingrays 13
20 Eyers Ryan 22/04/2003 198 82 Corowa Rutherglen Murray Bushrangers 10
22 Lawence Jerome 18/07/2003 196 81 Blackburn Oakleigh Chargers 7
24 Grant Samuel 4/04/2003 199 90 Old Carey Northern Knights 5
26 Hart Fletcher 1/07/2003 200 97 Albury Murray Bushrangers 9
27 Murray Toby 3/11/2003 200 92 Wangaratta Rovers Murray Bushrangers 8
28 Ramsden Max 19/04/2003 202 86 Old Melbournians Sandringham Dragons 16
VIC METRO SQUAD
#

FIRST NAME

SURNAME

DOB

HT

COMMUNITY CLUB / SCHOOL

REGION

1

Mason

Helleren

03-02-04

172

South Croydon Football Club

Eastern Ranges

2

Jason

McCormick

11-02-04

174

Eltham JFC / Box Hill Secondary College

Northern Knights

3

Josh

Bennetts

09-08-04

178

Rowville / Rowville

Eastern Ranges

4

Cam

Nyko

25-11-05

178

Healesville / Mount Lilydale

Eastern Ranges

5

Kai

Windsor

27-01-04

179

Lysterfield JFC / Rowville Sports Academy

Eastern Ranges

6

Cameron

Kizan

03-06-04

181

Point Cook / Maribyrnong Sports Academy

Western Jets

7

Charlie

Clarke

04-01-04

182

Port Melbourne Colts

Sandringham Dragons

8

Paul

Pascu

20-08-04

183

Oak Park / Penola

Calder Cannons

10

Harry

Sheezel

13-10-04

184

Mount Scopus College / Ajax JFC

Sandringham Dragons

11

Caleb

Windsor

09-06-05

184

Lysterfield JFC / Rowville

Eastern Ranges

12

Mitchell

Rowe

26-05-04

186

Parkdale SC / Mordialloc Braeside FC

Sandringham Dragons

14

Ben

Hempel

07-06-04

187

St Bede's College / Mordialloc Braeside JFC

Sandringham Dragons

15

Callum

Verrell

22-04-04

187

Lysterfield JFC / St Joseph College

Eastern Ranges

16

Jack

Newitt

13-02-03

189

Sunbury Lions

Calder Cannons

17

Nate

Caddy

14-07-05

191

Yarrambat / Parade College

Northern Knights

18

Jack

Chubb

26-02-04

194

Montmorency / Box Hill Secondary College

Northern Knights

19

Jackson

McMenamin

29-03-04

195

Hillside

Western Jets

20

Riley

Weathrill

21-11-05

195

East Ringwood / Ringwood Secondary College

Eastern Ranges

21

Dane

Harvey

10-05-04

197

Fitzroy JFC / Maribyrnong College

Northern Knights

22

Lewis

Hayes

17-12-04

197

Lysterfield JFC / Rowville Sports Academy

Eastern Ranges

23

Will

Green

08-09-05

202

Northcote / Thornbury High

Northern Knights

24

Hudson

O'Keefe

16-12-04

202

Camberwell Sharks / Camberwell High

Oakleigh Chargers

25

Clay

Tucker

09-08-04

203

Rowville / St Joseph College

Eastern Ranges

COLGATE YOUNG GUNS MATCH 1

Colgate Young Guns v Victoria Metro U18

Saturday 7 May, 4:30pm, Avalon Airport Oval, Werribee

IT’S A BAUER TIME
Exciting North Adelaide forward Jacob Bauer bounced back from concussion to further enhance his mid-season draft chances last weekend.

Bauer, who joined the Roosters from the Swans Academy after being overlooked in last year’s draft, booted another three goals on his return against West Adelaide, taking his tally to 13 in just three games, to rank equal-third in the SANFL after five rounds.

The 19-year-old high-flyer started the year in the reserves, after a last-minute move to South Australia, but he put his name in front of AFL recruiters with a commanding five-goal performance on debut against the Crows in Round 2.

Jacob Bauer of North Adelaide has firmed as a mid-season draft chance. Picture: Brenton Edwards
Jacob Bauer of North Adelaide has firmed as a mid-season draft chance. Picture: Brenton Edwards
In his first appearance at SANFL League level, Bauer took three marks inside-50 opposed to AFL-listed Crow James Borlase, who lined up in a strong Adelaide defence alongside Nick Murray, Josh Worrell, Andrew McPherson and Fischer McAsey.

He followed it up a week later with another five majors and three outstanding contested marks - before suffering a delayed concussion - to further highlight his aerial prowess and confirm what North Adelaide is thinking about his future.

“I’m not sure how much longer we’re going to see him at SANFL level,” Roosters reserves and development coach Darren Reeves told The Advertiser after Bauer’s second five-goal haul against Central.

“He has great hands, takes marks at the highest point, is an excellent kick and is such an exciting talent that I’m sure AFL clubs are starting to sniff around.”

The 191cm Bauer has attracted significant AFL attention ahead of June’s mid-season draft – and it’s not hard to see why.

“Coming up through the Swans Academy, Nick Davis (youth development coach) always said that to get drafted you have to be elite at one thing, so my marking is my go-to trait and what I pride myself most on,’’ Bauer said.

LAND OF THE GIANTS
West Adelaide key-forward Harry Lemmey is the early pick to be the first tall taken in a draft set to be dominated by the big men, but he’s now facing competition from inside his own four walls.

After a blistering start to the SANFL under-18 season, Bloods teammate Tom Scully is rising up draft boards quickly.

The mobile 204cm forward, who spent time in the ruck during his bottom-age season, has booted a remarkable 33 goals in the opening six rounds of the under-18 competition – 13 more than any other player.

Harry Lemmey is the early pick to be the first tall taken in the draft. Picture Cory Sutton/SANFL
Harry Lemmey is the early pick to be the first tall taken in the draft. Picture Cory Sutton/SANFL
With his height and reach, Scully has been unstoppable in the air, taking 24 contested marks in six matches. The next-best player has 16.

The 17-year-old’s running patterns make him equally as hard to stop on the lead, too, with Scully recording a total of 39 marks inside-50.

And his ability to win the ball at ground level for a player of his standing has also impressed onlookers so far in 2022.

“The potential for Tom to continue to develop over the next 12 to 24 months is quite big,” West Adelaide under-18 coach Paul Streatfield told The Advertiser.

“It’s pretty unusual to find someone as tall as him that is as co-ordinated with their kicking, but also as good at ground level as what he is.

“There’s no obvious gap in his game and I don’t think he’s yet worked out exactly how good he could be.”

It’s set to be a big another draft for the Bloods - the club that delivered Riley Thilthorpe to the Crows in 2020 - with 18-year-old Kobe Ryan named to make his senior debut on Saturday.

The classy midfielder has followed on from his standout bottom-age season to average 156 Champion Data ranking points at under-18 level this year, and looms as a first-round contender.

Skillful ruckman Harry Barnett is another West Adelaide tall on the radar.

ASHCROFT STARS IN VFL AS WAFL BOLTERS EMERGE

Top pick contender Will Ashcroft made a sparkling VFL debut for Brisbane last weekend.

The prodigious 187cm midfielder, who has dominated the opening month of the NAB League, continued in a similar vein at state league level with 24 disposals, 17 uncontested possessions, nine tackles and six inside 50s in a well-rounded performance from the highly-touted talent.

The son of triple premiership Lion Marcus Ashcroft is currently training with Brisbane and playing with their VFL side before returning to the Sandringham Dragons, but he is yet to commit to the club as a father-son.

While Ashcroft is a familiar name to draft watchers, Steely Green is a rock star name we are going to hear a lot more about after his stellar form at WAFL senior level.

Will Ashcroft impressed on VFL debut for the Lions. Picture: Getty Images
Will Ashcroft impressed on VFL debut for the Lions. Picture: Getty Images
The classy 178cm midfielder has managed to break into the reigning premier South Fremantle’s round 1 side and is thriving, putting his footy smarts and skilful ball-use on display for recruiters against seasoned bodies.

The early draft bolter finished with a formidable 25 disposals, five tackles and four clearances on WAFL debut and backed it up with 20 touches in round 2.

Athletic defender Reuben Ginbey is another WA prospect who has boosted his stocks following a promotion to East Perth’s senior side, impressing as a role player down back.

At 189cm, Ginbey boasts electric speed, a strong endurance base and reads the play well in defence.

MID-SEASON DRAFT DETAILS
Clubs will have the opportunity to select the best mature-age and overlooked 2021 draft hopefuls in the upcoming mid-season draft, which takes place after the completion of round 11 on Wednesday June 1.

Clubs will be required to have an available rookie list spot by 5:00pm on May 31st to take part.

Listed players with long-term injuries are able to be moved to the inactive list to free up spots.

The draft will take place in reverse ladder order, meaning West Coast, North Melbourne and Essendon — all sitting 1-6 — remain in contention for the No.1 pick of the mid-season draft.

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Eligible players for the mid-season include those who nominated for last year’s AFL draft, a player who has previously been on a list or a player who has been delisted.

However, a player who has been delisted cannot be selected by their original club if they failed to nominate for the most recent drafting period.


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It’s weird that SE would post a paid article for free with little fanfare

We prefer the SS way of grandstanding +++ about how you paid for it and it’s your right to to share and not share as you see fit.

Also SE… if you could make it a discussion point each and every time you post an article to highlight what an important person you are…
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Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.


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saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 6:11pm
Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.


On all forums the etiquette is with a linked article to post enough so that people know the key thrust, or the point of relevance to the forum being posted on.

If one is not willing to do that, then posting just a link is 1/ pointless and 2/ rude.

Also note that it is entirely permissible to post part of articles.


So as an example in this case, you could have done something like:



Herald Sun reports:

A change in Next Generation Academy rules appears set to deny Melbourne and St Kilda the chance to snare two promising draft prospects who are rising fast, including a distributing defender likened to young Demons sensation Jake Bowey.

Clubs are unable to match rival NGA bids inside the first 40 picks of the 2022 draft – up from the top 20 last year – with Finn Emile-Brennan (tied to Demons) and Cam MacKenzie (Saints) surging into second-round calculations after impressive starts to the NAB League season.


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saintsRrising wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 7:03pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 6:11pm
Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.


On all forums the etiquette is with a linked article to post enough so that people know the key thrust, or the point of relevance to the forum being posted on.

If one is not willing to do that, then posting just a link is 1/ pointless and 2/ rude.

Also note that it is entirely permissible to post part of articles.


So as an example in this case, you could have done something like:



Herald Sun reports:

A change in Next Generation Academy rules appears set to deny Melbourne and St Kilda the chance to snare two promising draft prospects who are rising fast, including a distributing defender likened to young Demons sensation Jake Bowey.

Clubs are unable to match rival NGA bids inside the first 40 picks of the 2022 draft – up from the top 20 last year – with Finn Emile-Brennan (tied to Demons) and Cam MacKenzie (Saints) surging into second-round calculations after impressive starts to the NAB League season.


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Noted, but it is hypercritical IMHO, for certain posters to expect to read articles for free from a publication they say they despise.

I posted the link so that posters are aware that there is an article. Not rude at all AFAIC.

I do the same thing with links to saints.com articles as well as articles from AFL.com.

Anyway in this case, there were ads covering the article that I couldn't delete making copying impossible.

I also always post Age articles in full.

In future though I will follow your advice and only post extracts from the age and herald sun articles.

I am starting to think though that if I cop more abuse or smart arse comments.
because of my postings, I will stop posting links altogether. That would solve the issue for me at least.

This is not directed at you but I really don't give a rats for what is or isn't forum etiquette.

I posted articles that I thought true saints supporters would be interested in. Some of which were written by herald sun journos, only to cop abuse and derision from a poster who obviously had a thing about the Murdoch press. Hence at times I posted just a link. Some posters can confrm that I was more than happy to PM them the full article.

Anyway I don't feel the need to justify my action any further than I have already done so.


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Re: Saints likely to be dudded on NGA player

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It’s your fiefdom Saynta, i certainly support your right to post what you want and look forward to more of these discussions in the future


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Re: saints likely to be duded on NGA player

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saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 6:11pm
Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.
I don't care about your agenda, your beef with other posters or your politics.

Purely from a forum perspective if you were going to post on a public forum with an article behind a paywall it would have taken you 5s to include a brief description/context.

Are you posting to incite/agitate certain individuals or posting to inform ?


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Re: saints likely to be duded on NGA player

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Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 7:52pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 6:11pm
Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.
I don't care about your agenda, your beef with other posters or your politics.

Purely from a forum perspective if you were going to post on a public forum with an article behind a paywall it would have taken you 5s to include a brief description/context.

Are you posting to incite/agitate certain individuals or posting to inform ?
No. I was posting to inform but from now on I won't post any links from the Herald sun or the Age. I don't need the angst.


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Re: saints likely to be duded on NGA player

Post: # 1953030Post skeptic »

Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 7:52pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 6:11pm
Linton Street Saint wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 4:04pm
saynta wrote: Sat 07 May 2022 2:55pm Well, don't. Up to you. Guess you won't mind missing out then.
Pretty dogshit attitude after posting something behind a paywall on a public forum, people have a pretty good reason not to want any part of Murdoch media.

Happy to share with most forumites but not those who want to read the articles for free and at the same time put s*** on me, the herald sun and the Murdoch press.

I have been happy in the past to pm articles to those that ask, provided they are not merely mouthed and not one of my stalkers. Those posters know who they are. Blame them not me.

Calling my attitude dogshit without asking me for am explanation is "pretty dogshit" in my humble f****** opinion. If you don't want any part of the Murdoch media why get upset if I don't want to post the article. Doesn't make any f****** sense.

I subscribe to the herald sun and the age solely for footy articles and don't give a f*** about the politics
behind or being pushed by either publication . Murdoch or anyone else.
I don't care about your agenda, your beef with other posters or your politics.

Purely from a forum perspective if you were going to post on a public forum with an article behind a paywall it would have taken you 5s to include a brief description/context.

Are you posting to incite/agitate certain individuals or posting to inform ?
This is my fault

I dared to criticise an article once for being really poorly written (not for it being posted but just being a lousy article)…

Since then, we’ve all endured the constant commentary of the articles and why he doesn’t share them but PMs then to some etc etc

I believe the objective to both be a forum hero but also deride the terrible forumites that made it come to this.

The irony for me is that I actually really enjoy the commentary

SE posted the article for free… I haven’t even read it and I have no idea what we’re talking about.

I mean one doesn’t even need to post the article… you could just share ur opinion and the rest would figure it out. That’s less showmanship though


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