Best teams

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10799
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2372 times

Best teams

Post: # 2037184Post B.M »

Never happen

But here goes

B: Wilkie - Howard - Webster
HB: Wanganeen Milera - Battle - Sinclair
C: Wood - Crouch - Henry
HF: Hill - Membrey - Owens
F: Higgins - King - Butler

Foll: Marshall - Steele - Dow

Int: Clark - Hayes - Windhager - Phillipou

Sub: Jones

Emerg: Ross - Stocker - Wilson -

Sandy

B: Schoenmaker - Cordy - Paton
HB: Hastie - Van Es - Stocker
C: McKenzie* - Ross - Allison
HF: McConnell - Sharman - Wilson
F: Keeler - Caminiti- Collard

Foll: Heath - ****** - Hotton

Int: Campbell - McLennan - Garcia - ******

Not sure if I’m missing anyone


User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7369
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 371 times
Been thanked: 175 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037187Post bobmurray »

That's 43 Saints players, does mean they can pick 1 more, either Rookie or SSP ?

I see you've included McKenzie and so have i in my count.


Will the Saints ever be classed as a good club ?
User avatar
Otiman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
Location: Elsewhere
Has thanked: 148 times
Been thanked: 531 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037189Post Otiman »

Interesting look at two teams.

In order for us to improve, some or all of the following needs to happen by 2025.

- NWM takes the wing spot from Wood or HF from Hill (pending fitness, form, retirement)
- 2 of Van Es, Schoenmaker, Hastie takes Battle, Webster, and NWM's defensive spot
- Owens in the middle
- 2 of Caminiti, Sharman, Keeler takes Membrey and Owens spot up forward.
- Heath finds a way into the side (??)
- Collard takes either Butler or Higgins spot

The most interesting point is the 2nd and 3rd tall forwards.


Banger9798
SS Life Member
Posts: 2651
Joined: Sun 25 Apr 2021 9:43pm
Has thanked: 676 times
Been thanked: 750 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037194Post Banger9798 »

Pretty close to how I have them except Sharman gets his spot ahead of Hayes for Round 1.


Will be interesting to see by Round 10 how many of those first year players have pushed into the seniors.

Wilson and Collard look the most likely.

Clark most under the pump this year to lift in order to hold his spot.


The Artist formerly known as Fugazi
nobhead
Club Player
Posts: 303
Joined: Wed 19 Aug 2009 11:46am
Been thanked: 29 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037196Post nobhead »

Missing byrnes :D


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10799
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2372 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037203Post B.M »

Ah yes

Byrnes - the missing mid at Sandringham

I have included Hayes for his ability to play forward/ruck

To chop out Max and Rowan

Best side is actually in the future

Post
Ross, Crouch, Jones, Hill, Webster, Howard, Wood
And even then again after
Steele, Marshall, Sinclair, Butler

4/5years time - Without new draftees
Schoenmaker- Van Es - Stocker
Hastie - Battle - Wanganeen Milera
Wilson - Owens - Henry
Hotton - Caminiti - Windhager
Collard - King - Keeler

Heath - Phillipou - Dow

Clark - Garcia - ????? - ?????

Obviously projection with 4 future fist rounders


saynta
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 22499
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
Has thanked: 8422 times
Been thanked: 3723 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037206Post saynta »

fist rounders?


TimeToShineFellas
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2007
Joined: Wed 10 Aug 2005 8:01pm
Has thanked: 47 times
Been thanked: 17 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037208Post TimeToShineFellas »

saynta wrote: Wed 22 Nov 2023 2:39pmfist rounders?
I think that's a different type of "best team" you're referring to!

:D


Saintmike65
Club Player
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
Has thanked: 217 times
Been thanked: 906 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037561Post Saintmike65 »

bobmurray wrote: Wed 22 Nov 2023 12:14pm That's 43 Saints players, does mean they can pick 1 more, either Rookie or SSP ?

I see you've included McKenzie and so have i in my count.
Liam O’Connell likely will play half back


Vortex
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6009
Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
Has thanked: 804 times
Been thanked: 939 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037563Post Vortex »

B.M wrote: Wed 22 Nov 2023 2:14pm Ah yes

Byrnes - the missing mid at Sandringham

I have included Hayes for his ability to play forward/ruck

To chop out Max and Rowan

Best side is actually in the future

Post
Ross, Crouch, Jones, Hill, Webster, Howard, Wood
And even then again after
Steele, Marshall, Sinclair, Butler

4/5years time - Without new draftees
Schoenmaker- Van Es - Stocker
Hastie - Battle - Wanganeen Milera
Wilson - Owens - Henry
Hotton - Caminiti - Windhager
Collard - King - Keeler

Heath - Phillipou - Dow

Clark - Garcia - ????? - ?????

Obviously projection with 4 future fist rounders
so I see you think Sharman won't make it?


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10799
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2372 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037564Post B.M »

Sharman has some attributes- can kick, can mark, has good endurance for a medium tall

But he is undersized, and lacks the agility and ground level skills for a player of his size imo.

He has a few tricks but deficiencies as well.

If he was 197 and 94 not 193/86 he’d be a different proposition


NickyDal
Club Player
Posts: 328
Joined: Thu 13 Oct 2022 4:42pm
Has thanked: 56 times
Been thanked: 26 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037572Post NickyDal »

Here is my team....

B: Wilkie - Howard - Stocker
HB: NWM - Battle - Sinclair
C: Wood - Crouch - Henry
HF: Hill - Sharman - Owens
F: Higgins - King - Butler

Foll: Marshall - Steele - Dow

Int: Ross - Jones - Windhager - Phillipou

Sub: Wilson

* Membrey only plays if Sharman gets injured.

* If only Hill, Ross and Wood were 5 years younger!! Will they be in our next premiership team? Touch and go...


NeXus Nick
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
User avatar
desertsaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10326
Joined: Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:02pm
Location: out there
Has thanked: 182 times
Been thanked: 680 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037573Post desertsaint »

unless he trains poorly you'd think Sharman plays given his game in the dinals. oustanding first ever final for the lad. looked a lot more composed than many of his experienced teammates.


"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10799
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2372 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037574Post B.M »

Only 7 spots for forwards

Only 3 for talls - one probably hybrid

I think it depends on how Membrey goes next season


User avatar
shanegrambeau
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5958
Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
Has thanked: 327 times
Been thanked: 710 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037600Post shanegrambeau »

So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?


You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
CQ SAINT
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6069
Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 1556 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037601Post CQ SAINT »

shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 2:35pm So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?
He is contracted I think.


NickyDal
Club Player
Posts: 328
Joined: Thu 13 Oct 2022 4:42pm
Has thanked: 56 times
Been thanked: 26 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037614Post NickyDal »

shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 2:35pm So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?
He is still on the list but IMHO he only plays if Sharman gets injured. Father time waits for no man!


NeXus Nick
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Scollop
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
Has thanked: 3257 times
Been thanked: 2212 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037622Post Scollop »

desertsaint wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 12:38am unless he trains poorly you'd think Sharman plays given his game in the dinals. oustanding first ever final for the lad. looked a lot more composed than many of his experienced teammates.
The marketing team took photos of players arriving for Day 1 of training. This is what they wrote about Cooper:

"Has an entrance to preseason ever been classier?" 8-)



User avatar
D.B.Cooper
Club Player
Posts: 1687
Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
Has thanked: 658 times
Been thanked: 617 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037661Post D.B.Cooper »

Not the best team, but the team I’d love to see force their way into round one with some young players forcing existing players out of the line up.

Wilkie Battle Howard
Hastie NWM Sinclair

Wood Crouch Henry
Marshall Steele Owens

Hill Butler Collard
King Phillipou Sharman

Higgins Wilson Windhager Keeler

Sub: Clark

EMG: Dow, Jones, Ross, Membrey, Webster,

# Elite run and kicking out of the back half
# Pace, running power & pressure through the middle and forward half
# I really wanted Daddy Cool (Ross Wilson) on the bench

Probably not going to happen, but I’d love to see the very talented Keeler, Collard & Wilson have some game time early.

I think the smokie from the new kids might be Angus Hastie, has the size, all the attributes RTB loves and is the type that may blossom really quickly in an elite training environment.


There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
CQ SAINT
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6069
Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 1556 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037663Post CQ SAINT »

I've got to agree with DB a bit but I might be forecasting the end of year best team.

Wilkie Howard Webster
Nas Battle Sinclair

Hill Windhager Henry
Marshall Steele Clark

Wilson Caminiti Owens
Keeler King Higgins

Crouch Hotton Phillipou Dow Wood

I have a feeling Keeler is the key to all of this.

I believe if he can come in as a fwd now, he will develop as part time midfield/ruck role and become devasting with Marshall in tandem.


User avatar
shanegrambeau
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5958
Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
Has thanked: 327 times
Been thanked: 710 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037664Post shanegrambeau »

NickyDal wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 3:28pm
shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 2:35pm So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?
He is still on the list but IMHO he only plays if Sharman gets injured. Father time waits for no man!
Yep, I have checked, carried my lantern, deep through the musty corridors of history, down medieval tunnels to the bottom of a monastery on an Italian hill, in which is stored an ancient scroll upon which was once scribed, Jack Hayes: knee surgery.


You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7369
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 371 times
Been thanked: 175 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037678Post bobmurray »

shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 2:35pm So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?
According to Tony74 yesterday, Hayes is injured, again.


Will the Saints ever be classed as a good club ?
NickyDal
Club Player
Posts: 328
Joined: Thu 13 Oct 2022 4:42pm
Has thanked: 56 times
Been thanked: 26 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037700Post NickyDal »

bobmurray wrote: Tue 28 Nov 2023 2:56pm
shanegrambeau wrote: Mon 27 Nov 2023 2:35pm So what is the status ofJack Hayes now?

Still on the list?
According to Tony74 yesterday, Hayes is injured, again.
If this is true then put a line through him. Put him on the LTI list and grab a smokey in the mid season draft if there is one. There is no room for sentiment.


NeXus Nick
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
saynta
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 22499
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
Has thanked: 8422 times
Been thanked: 3723 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037741Post saynta »

McKenzie?


CQ SAINT
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6069
Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
Has thanked: 336 times
Been thanked: 1556 times

Re: Best teams

Post: # 2037745Post CQ SAINT »

saynta wrote: Wed 29 Nov 2023 1:25pmMcKenzie?
Got delisted.


Post Reply